I bought myself a Chronograph for christmas this year (Chrony Gamma with a the printer) and hit the range this morning with a few loads to see what was what. It was actually very interesting to see the effect of muzzle velocity over impact point. I know that a lesser velocity will mean a lower strike point, but it was nice to see it in action. Anyways, here is a picture of a ten shot group with my savage 12 VLP in .223.....guess which shots have the highest and lowest velocity of the ten!? And yes, there are eight shots all through that nice little hole. I'd found in the past that my Savage likes to use a lighter load for the 55 gr bullets (V-Max) I was actually quite surprised at how slow they were going! Might have to try something at the other end of the spectrum for fun too! I was also quite surprised at how effective the IMR 4064 powder was too...with the general shortage that we've had, I grabbed some to see how effective it was for a .223 round. With a real lack of information on the 4064 for the v-max I extrapolated a load from other loads I had used and some other information that I had available. Worked out pretty well, and the actual muzzle velocity is about 100 fps lower than I had predicted...now I need to test my comparative load to see how fast it was....it too may have been this slow!