Howdy. Hopefully there isn't a thread for this -- I searched and couldn't find one. So here's the question for you: Cheap import shotguns thanks to globalization -- are they any good? I know this is a LONG-standing question that is prolific in other forums, but I wanted to hear what my local gun enthusiasts thought about it. The two shotguns in question are the Chinese-made IAC/Norinco 982 Hawk 12 Gauge Pump, and the Turkish-made Tristar Cobra Force 12 Gauge Pump. There are two schools of thought for the IAC - it's an improved-upon Remington 870 clone (it's actually based on the 870 and not made by Remington) for a fraction of the price, or it's unnecessarily heavy due to cheaper, lower quality steel (which rusts by the way), has feeding and ejecting issues, and whose reliability should be questioned. The TriStar is similar - seemingly well-built, cheap, tactical, and an "interesting" spring-assist fore end to help in cycling speed, or it has ejecting and feeding issues and the spring-assisted fore end actually over-complicates the simplicity of the pump shotgun, also bringing the reliability into question. My final thought is, if they're as great as the competitors, then why isn't police and military using them instead of Remington's and Mossberg's?