CC on University of Oregon Eugene Campus

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The University's policy is clearly explained on their website here:

Proscribed Conduct — Weapons Policy | University of Oregon Police Department

This policy has been in effect at the University since 2012. You cannot go to any ticketed event, or inside any building on campus carrying concealed. That applies to people with a CHL as well.

If you are caught carrying, you will not have broken any state law, and thus will not be charged with any crime. However, the University will legally trespass you for violating their rules of conduct, making it illegal for you to ever set foot on campus again. If you do come back and they spot you, you can then be legally charged with the crime of trespassing.

Here is the text explaining the University's rules:
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The State Board of Higher Education in 2012 approved a policy that prohibits the possession of firearms on property controlled by any of the state's seven public universities. This rule was adopted in 2014 by the University of Oregon's Board of Trustees, along with all of the other policies flowing from the Oregon University System. The policy therefore maintains its force of law on the University of Oregon campus under Oregon Administrative Rules.

A letter from University of Oregon administrators explains the 2012 policy, below. The full text of the policy can be downloaded as a PDF from the bottom of this page, and the relevant Oregon Administrative Rule (OAR 580-022-0045(3)) can also be viewed online. All existing relevant OUS policies were adopted en masse by the UO Board of Trustees in 2014, and continue to carry the force of Oregon law.

March 9, 2012

To: UO students, faculty and staff

Subject: New policy about firearms approved by State Board of Higher Education

The Oregon State Board of Higher Education recently approved a new policy about firearms on the seven public university campuses, including the University of Oregon.

The policy, which became effective on March 2, 2012, prohibits the possession of firearms on university-owned or –controlled property by students; employees; contractors and vendors (and their employees and agents); any person attending a ticketed event; and any person leasing, renting or reserving university-owned or –controlled property. This prohibition applies to all individuals, including those with a concealed handgun license.

The policy also prohibits the possession of firearms by all persons, including those with a concealed handgun license, in any building or work place owned or controlled by the university, including but not limited to academic buildings, the Erb Memorial Union, and athletics and performing arts venues.

There are a few exceptions to the firearms ban, including possession by on-duty law enforcement officers; possession by campus police for training purposes; military program participants, including ROTC.

The intent of the policy is to enhance personal safety on OUS campuses and to provide an environment where learning, research and exchange of ideas can thrive.

The UO Department of Public Safety is available to answer questions or provide information on the new policy. UODPS can be reached at 541-346-2919.

Best,

Jamie Moffitt, vice president, Finance & Administration
Robin Holmes, vice president, Student Affairs
Doug Tripp, executive director and chief, UO Department of Public Safety

 

[BDA.45]

166.173 Authority of city or county to regulate possession of loaded firearms in public places. (1) A city or county may adopt ordinances to regulate, restrict or prohibit the possession of loaded firearms in public places as defined in ORS 161.015.

(2) Ordinances adopted under subsection (1) of this section do not apply to or affect:

(a) A law enforcement officer.

(b) A member of the military in the performance of official duty.

(c) A person licensed to carry a concealed handgun.

(d) A person authorized to possess a loaded firearm while in or on a public building or court facility under ORS 166.370.

(e) An employee of the United States Department of Agriculture, acting within the scope of employment, who possesses a loaded firearm in the course of the lawful taking of wildlife.

(f) An honorably retired law enforcement officer, unless the person who is a retired law enforcement officer has been convicted of an offense that would make the person ineligible to obtain a concealed handgun license under ORS 166.291 and 166.292. [1995 s.s. c.1 §4; 1999 c.782 §8; 2009 c.556 §3; 2015 c.709 §1]





166.370 Possession of firearm or dangerous weapon in public building or court facility; exceptions; discharging firearm at school. (1) Any person who intentionally possesses a loaded or unloaded firearm or any other instrument used as a dangerous weapon, while in or on a public building, shall upon conviction be guilty of a Class C felony.

(2)(a) Except as otherwise provided in paragraph (b) of this subsection, a person who intentionally possesses:

(A) A firearm in a court facility is guilty, upon conviction, of a Class C felony. A person who intentionally possesses a firearm in a court facility shall surrender the firearm to a law enforcement officer.

(B) A weapon, other than a firearm, in a court facility may be required to surrender the weapon to a law enforcement officer or to immediately remove it from the court facility. A person who fails to comply with this subparagraph is guilty, upon conviction, of a Class C felony.

(C) A firearm in a local court facility is guilty, upon conviction, of a Class C felony if, prior to the offense, the presiding judge of the local court facility entered an order prohibiting firearms in the area in which the court conducts business and during the hours in which the court operates.

(b) The presiding judge of a judicial district or a municipal court may enter an order permitting the possession of specified weapons in a court facility.

(c) Within a shared court facility, the presiding judge of a municipal court or justice of the peace district may not enter an order concerning the possession of weapons in the court facility that is in conflict with an order entered by the presiding judge of the circuit court.

(3) Subsection (1) of this section does not apply to:

(a) A police officer or reserve officer, as those terms are defined in ORS 181A.355.

(b) A parole and probation officer, as defined in ORS 181A.355, while the parole and probation officer is acting within the scope of employment.

(c) A federal officer, as defined in ORS 133.005, or a certified reserve officer or corrections officer, as those terms are defined in ORS 181A.355, while the federal officer, certified reserve officer or corrections officer is acting within the scope of employment.

(d) A person summoned by an officer described in paragraph (a), (b) or (c) of this subsection to assist in making an arrest or preserving the peace, while the summoned person is engaged in assisting the officer.

(e) An honorably retired law enforcement officer.

(f) An active or reserve member of the military forces of this state or the United States, when engaged in the performance of duty.

(g) A person who is licensed under ORS 166.291 and 166.292 to carry a concealed handgun.

(h) A person who is authorized by the officer or agency that controls the public building to possess a firearm or dangerous weapon in that public building.

(i) An employee of the United States Department of Agriculture, acting within the scope of employment, who possesses a firearm in the course of the lawful taking of wildlife.

(j) Possession of a firearm on school property if the firearm:

(A) Is possessed by a person who is not otherwise prohibited from possessing the firearm; and

(B) Is unloaded and locked in a motor vehicle.

(4)(a) The exceptions listed in subsection (3)(d) to (j) of this section constitute affirmative defenses to a charge of violating subsection (1) of this section.

(b) A person may not use the affirmative defense described in subsection (3)(e) of this section if the person has been convicted of an offense that would make the person ineligible to obtain a concealed handgun license under ORS 166.291 and 166.292

 

[partsed]

The University's policy is clearly explained on their website here:

Proscribed Conduct — Weapons Policy | University of Oregon Police Department

This policy has been in effect at the University since 2012. You cannot go to any ticketed event, or inside any building on campus carrying concealed. That applies to people with a CHL as well.

If you are caught carrying, you will not have broken any state law, and thus will not be charged with any crime. However, the University will legally trespass you for violating their rules of conduct, making it illegal for you to ever set foot on campus again. If you do come back and they spot you, you can then be legally charged with the crime of trespassing.

Here is the text explaining the University's rules:
==============================

The State Board of Higher Education in 2012 approved a policy that prohibits the possession of firearms on property controlled by any of the state's seven public universities. This rule was adopted in 2014 by the University of Oregon's Board of Trustees, along with all of the other policies flowing from the Oregon University System. The policy therefore maintains its force of law on the University of Oregon campus under Oregon Administrative Rules.

A letter from University of Oregon administrators explains the 2012 policy, below. The full text of the policy can be downloaded as a PDF from the bottom of this page, and the relevant Oregon Administrative Rule (OAR 580-022-0045(3)) can also be viewed online. All existing relevant OUS policies were adopted en masse by the UO Board of Trustees in 2014, and continue to carry the force of Oregon law.

March 9, 2012

To: UO students, faculty and staff

Subject: New policy about firearms approved by State Board of Higher Education

The Oregon State Board of Higher Education recently approved a new policy about firearms on the seven public university campuses, including the University of Oregon.

The policy, which became effective on March 2, 2012, prohibits the possession of firearms on university-owned or –controlled property by students; employees; contractors and vendors (and their employees and agents); any person attending a ticketed event; and any person leasing, renting or reserving university-owned or –controlled property. This prohibition applies to all individuals, including those with a concealed handgun license.

The policy also prohibits the possession of firearms by all persons, including those with a concealed handgun license, in any building or work place owned or controlled by the university, including but not limited to academic buildings, the Erb Memorial Union, and athletics and performing arts venues.

There are a few exceptions to the firearms ban, including possession by on-duty law enforcement officers; possession by campus police for training purposes; military program participants, including ROTC.

The intent of the policy is to enhance personal safety on OUS campuses and to provide an environment where learning, research and exchange of ideas can thrive.

The UO Department of Public Safety is available to answer questions or provide information on the new policy. UODPS can be reached at 541-346-2919.

Best,

Jamie Moffitt, vice president, Finance & Administration
Robin Holmes, vice president, Student Affairs
Doug Tripp, executive director and chief, UO Department of Public Safety

I'm sure the bad guys have read that and will steer clear of U of O. After all, everyone knows that criminals always follow the law-each and every time...

 

[BDA.45]

The University's policy is clearly explained on their website here:

Proscribed Conduct — Weapons Policy | University of Oregon Police Department

This policy has been in effect at the University since 2012. You cannot go to any ticketed event, or inside any building on campus carrying concealed. That applies to people with a CHL as well.

If you are caught carrying, you will not have broken any state law, and thus will not be charged with any crime. However, the University will legally trespass you for violating their rules of conduct, making it illegal for you to ever set foot on campus again. If you do come back and they spot you, you can then be legally charged with the crime of trespassing.

Here is the text explaining the University's rules:
==============================

The State Board of Higher Education in 2012 approved a policy that prohibits the possession of firearms on property controlled by any of the state's seven public universities. This rule was adopted in 2014 by the University of Oregon's Board of Trustees, along with all of the other policies flowing from the Oregon University System. The policy therefore maintains its force of law on the University of Oregon campus under Oregon Administrative Rules.

A letter from University of Oregon administrators explains the 2012 policy, below. The full text of the policy can be downloaded as a PDF from the bottom of this page, and the relevant Oregon Administrative Rule (OAR 580-022-0045(3)) can also be viewed online. All existing relevant OUS policies were adopted en masse by the UO Board of Trustees in 2014, and continue to carry the force of Oregon law.

March 9, 2012

To: UO students, faculty and staff

Subject: New policy about firearms approved by State Board of Higher Education

The Oregon State Board of Higher Education recently approved a new policy about firearms on the seven public university campuses, including the University of Oregon.

The policy, which became effective on March 2, 2012, prohibits the possession of firearms on university-owned or –controlled property by students; employees; contractors and vendors (and their employees and agents); any person attending a ticketed event; and any person leasing, renting or reserving university-owned or –controlled property. This prohibition applies to all individuals, including those with a concealed handgun license.

The policy also prohibits the possession of firearms by all persons, including those with a concealed handgun license, in any building or work place owned or controlled by the university, including but not limited to academic buildings, the Erb Memorial Union, and athletics and performing arts venues.

There are a few exceptions to the firearms ban, including possession by on-duty law enforcement officers; possession by campus police for training purposes; military program participants, including ROTC.

The intent of the policy is to enhance personal safety on OUS campuses and to provide an environment where learning, research and exchange of ideas can thrive.

The UO Department of Public Safety is available to answer questions or provide information on the new policy. UODPS can be reached at 541-346-2919.

Best,

Jamie Moffitt, vice president, Finance & Administration
Robin Holmes, vice president, Student Affairs
Doug Tripp, executive director and chief, UO Department of Public Safety

So according to this you just can't enter a building on campus? (And carry at events etc...) They gotta spot it first....still not breaking any laws....

 

[U8395279]

166.173 Authority of city or county to regulate possession of loaded firearms in public places. (1) A city or county may adopt ordinances to regulate, restrict or prohibit the possession of loaded firearms in public places as defined in ORS 161.015.

(2) Ordinances adopted under subsection (1) of this section do not apply to or affect:

(a) A law enforcement officer.

(b) A member of the military in the performance of official duty.

(c) A person licensed to carry a concealed handgun.

(d) A person authorized to possess a loaded firearm while in or on a public building or court facility under ORS 166.370.

(e) An employee of the United States Department of Agriculture, acting within the scope of employment, who possesses a loaded firearm in the course of the lawful taking of wildlife.

(f) An honorably retired law enforcement officer, unless the person who is a retired law enforcement officer has been convicted of an offense that would make the person ineligible to obtain a concealed handgun license under ORS 166.291 and 166.292. [1995 s.s. c.1 §4; 1999 c.782 §8; 2009 c.556 §3; 2015 c.709 §1]





166.370 Possession of firearm or dangerous weapon in public building or court facility; exceptions; discharging firearm at school. (1) Any person who intentionally possesses a loaded or unloaded firearm or any other instrument used as a dangerous weapon, while in or on a public building, shall upon conviction be guilty of a Class C felony.

(2)(a) Except as otherwise provided in paragraph (b) of this subsection, a person who intentionally possesses:

(A) A firearm in a court facility is guilty, upon conviction, of a Class C felony. A person who intentionally possesses a firearm in a court facility shall surrender the firearm to a law enforcement officer.

(B) A weapon, other than a firearm, in a court facility may be required to surrender the weapon to a law enforcement officer or to immediately remove it from the court facility. A person who fails to comply with this subparagraph is guilty, upon conviction, of a Class C felony.

(C) A firearm in a local court facility is guilty, upon conviction, of a Class C felony if, prior to the offense, the presiding judge of the local court facility entered an order prohibiting firearms in the area in which the court conducts business and during the hours in which the court operates.

(b) The presiding judge of a judicial district or a municipal court may enter an order permitting the possession of specified weapons in a court facility.

(c) Within a shared court facility, the presiding judge of a municipal court or justice of the peace district may not enter an order concerning the possession of weapons in the court facility that is in conflict with an order entered by the presiding judge of the circuit court.

(3) Subsection (1) of this section does not apply to:

(a) A police officer or reserve officer, as those terms are defined in ORS 181A.355.

(b) A parole and probation officer, as defined in ORS 181A.355, while the parole and probation officer is acting within the scope of employment.

(c) A federal officer, as defined in ORS 133.005, or a certified reserve officer or corrections officer, as those terms are defined in ORS 181A.355, while the federal officer, certified reserve officer or corrections officer is acting within the scope of employment.

(d) A person summoned by an officer described in paragraph (a), (b) or (c) of this subsection to assist in making an arrest or preserving the peace, while the summoned person is engaged in assisting the officer.

(e) An honorably retired law enforcement officer.

(f) An active or reserve member of the military forces of this state or the United States, when engaged in the performance of duty.

(g) A person who is licensed under ORS 166.291 and 166.292 to carry a concealed handgun.

(h) A person who is authorized by the officer or agency that controls the public building to possess a firearm or dangerous weapon in that public building.

(i) An employee of the United States Department of Agriculture, acting within the scope of employment, who possesses a firearm in the course of the lawful taking of wildlife.

(j) Possession of a firearm on school property if the firearm:

(A) Is possessed by a person who is not otherwise prohibited from possessing the firearm; and

(B) Is unloaded and locked in a motor vehicle.

(4)(a) The exceptions listed in subsection (3)(d) to (j) of this section constitute affirmative defenses to a charge of violating subsection (1) of this section.

(b) A person may not use the affirmative defense described in subsection (3)(e) of this section if the person has been convicted of an offense that would make the person ineligible to obtain a concealed handgun license under ORS 166.291 and 166.292

Well, all that this information you posted does is document that a person will not be charged with any crime if you carry on the U of O campus. But if you are caught violating the University's rules of conduct, they can and will legally trespass you.

A student that is caught carrying legally faces discipline including expulsion. Likewise, a teacher caught carrying legally can be terminated by the University for breaking the conduct rules.

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[U8395279]

So according to this you just can't enter a building on campus? (And carry at events etc...) They gotta spot it first....still not breaking any laws....

True, no laws will have been broken. So one cannot be charged with any crime. You will just be trespassed, and escorted off campus.

But if a person is a student, teacher, or other employee of the University, they would face much more grave consequences.

Outdoor events have to be ticketed, for you to be cited outdoors. So if you attend an outdoor event that does not require the purchase of a ticket, you are then OK, and not violating the University's rules.

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[BDA.45]

Well, all that this information you posted does is document that a person will not be charged with any crime if you carry on the U of O campus. But if you are caught violating the University's rules of conduct, they can and will legally trespass you.

A student that is caught carrying legally faces discipline including expulsion. Likewise, a teacher caught carrying legally can be terminated by the University for breaking the conduct rules.

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I'll take the chance of being trespassed...doesn't bother me none. 1 less place of being a fish in a barrel.

 

[Stomper]

This is why you should buy the latest edition of "Oregon's Gun Laws" from OFF.

Oregon's Pre-emption Statute:

ORS.166.170 (look it up)


The public University system attempted to ban ALL carry including CHL holders (via administrative rule), it was challenged and struck down by the courts. The Oregon legislature has sole authority to make gun laws, and has only allowed Cities and Counties to regulate loaded open carry in public places (ORS 166.172 & ORS166.73), but CHL holders are exempt from that.

You go right on ahead and carry your EDC weapon, you're legal if you have a CHL.

Hope that helps!

 

[BDA.45]

True, no laws will have been broken. So one cannot be charged with any crime. You will just be trespassed, and escorted off campus.

But if a person is a student, teacher, or other employee of the University, they would face much more grave consequences.

Outdoor events have to be ticketed, for you to be cited outdoors. So if you attend an outdoor event that does not require the purchase of a ticket, you are then OK, and not violating the University's rules.

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I'm pretty fimilar with this. I work for the govt and while I can't carry at work without risk of losing my job, it makes no sense to me when any random azz person can enter our building carrying and nothing can be done to them. On the flip side to that, if I come as a private citizen to my work place to conduct non work related business there's absolutely nothing my higher ups can do about it....really stupid imo....

 

[U8395279]

I'll take the chance of being trespassed...doesn't bother me none. 1 less place of being a fish in a barrel.

Well, trespassing is only a Class C misdemeanor. And you will only be charged if you come back and are caught carrying a second time.

Would a misdemeanor conviction affect keeping a CHL?? Would the state revoke it??

 

[U8395279]

This is why you should buy the latest edition of "Oregon's Gun Laws" from OFF.

Oregon's Pre-emption Statute:

ORS.166.170 (look it up)


The public University system attempted to ban ALL carry including CHL holders (via administrative rule), it was challenged and struck down by the courts. The Oregon legislature has sole authority to make gun laws, and has only allowed Cities and Counties to regulate loaded open carry in public places (ORS 166.172 & ORS166.73), but CHL holders are exempt from that.

You go right on ahead and carry your EDC weapon, you're legal if you have a CHL.

Hope that helps!

Man, you are posting such old and outdated information here Stomper. What you are talking about happened way back in 2011. Since the, the University came up with NEW ADMINISTRATIVE RULES in 2012. And these new, and still current rules have not been overturned by any court.

Here is a news article back from 2011 about this at the link down below. You can note that the University System said back then that instead of appealing the decision, they would just create new rules. And those rules, which are currently in force, are the rules that I posted earlier.

Here is the 2011 news article:

Oregon University System will not appeal court decision allowing guns on campus

 

[MightyCasey]

If you can't carry refuse to pay tuition!

 

[Stomper]

Man, you are posting such old and outdated information here Stomper. What you are talking about happened way back in 2011. Since the, the University came up with NEW ADMINISTRATIVE RULES in 2012. And these new, and still current rules have not been overturned by any court.

Here is a news article back from 2011 about this at the link down below. You can note that the University System said back then that instead of appealing the decision, they would just create new rules. And those rules, which are currently in force, are the rules that I posted earlier.

Here is the 2011 news article:

Oregon University System will not appeal court decision allowing guns on campus

That was taken from the most recent "Oregon Gun Laws" from OFF written by Kevin Sarrett that was released just last week.

I'm sure lawyers will try to twist & pervert things into a tortured maze again.... but "F" 'em.

 

[U8395279]

That was taken from the most recent "Oregon Gun Laws" from OFF written by Kevin Sarrett that was released just last week.

I'm sure lawyers will try to twist & pervert things into a tortured maze again.... but "F" 'em.

Did you not read that news article that I posted? That court ruling was back in 2011, and the University system basically responded to the ruling by saying "F U, we will just go ahead and write NEW RULES."

Those new rules were implemented in 2012, and that is what is cited on the University of Oregon's website as giving the campus police their present authority to ban guns.

I can assure everyone here that if you carry concealed on campus with a CHL, and go up to a campus police officer and tell them that you are carrying, you will be escorted off campus if you have gone inside any building.

As long as you don't go inside any building, or attend any event that requires a ticket, you will be fine. So if anyone wants to just take a stroll around the campus, that is OK.

If you want to attend any Black Lives Matter rallies on campus, that would be fine too.

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[Koda]

I still want to know how is it they can ban you from entering the buildings? Are the public buildings, or privately owned?

 

[Stomper]

Did you not read that news article that I posted? That court ruling was back in 2011, and the University system basically responded to the ruling by saying "F U, we will just go ahead and write NEW RULES."

Those new rules were implemented in 2012, and that is what is cited on the University of Oregon's website as giving the campus police their present authority to ban guns.

I can assure everyone here that if you carry concealed on campus with a CHL, and go up to a campus police officer and tell them that you are carrying, you will be escorted off campus if you have gone inside any building.

As long as you don't go inside any building, or attend any event that requires a ticket, you will be fine. So if anyone wants to just take a stroll around the campus, that is OK.

If you want to attend any Black Lives Matter rallies on campus, that would be fine too.

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I only got that they wouldn't challenge the ruling...

Only a dumbass would walk up to a cop and tell them they have a CCW on them, CHL or not...

 

[U8395279]

I only got that they wouldn't challenge the ruling...

Then you clearly did not read the entire article, as it explained why they did not bother to challenge the ruling.

Nor have you apparently looked at the University of Oregon's webpage about this issue, which I posted in my first post in this thread. That is their current policy, and you will see that it was created in 2012, a year AFTER the 2011 court ruling that overturned the old rules.

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[nammac]

Then you clearly did not read the entire article, as it explained why they did not bother to challenge the ruling.

Nor have you apparently looked at the University of Oregon's webpage about this issue, which I posted in my first post in this thread. That is their current policy, and you will see that it was created in 2012, a year AFTER the 2011 court ruling that overturned the old rules.

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Lance is a Google Ninja, ferreting out the finest of details...

Curiously enough, I saw one police car but no police today. Pretty much covered most of the Eugene campus...

Wondering what their position is on my daughter carrying pepper spray for self protection...

Regardless, I will encourage her to do so...

 

[Stomper]

Then you clearly did not read the entire article, as it explained why they did not bother to challenge the ruling.

Nor have you apparently looked at the University of Oregon's webpage about this issue, which I posted in my first post in this thread. That is their current policy, and you will see that it was created in 2012, a year AFTER the 2011 court ruling that overturned the old rules.

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You should contact Kevin Starret with OFF and see what he has to say, too.

 

[Nick Burkhardt]

Like I said before, unless you are a student, teacher, or contract employee who has agreed to abide by the policy, then it does not apply to you as a CHL holder because you can carry freely in public including the campus AND buildings.

The University may have a leg to stand on with ticketed events, since you agree to the terms of purchase.