Catching Poachers.....

[addiction]

if anyone knows who this is (in photos) please tell them they are trespassing and poaching on private land.

Also tell them they are not the only ones up there hunting, and if I catch a poacher I will prosecute them to the fullest extent possible. There are no trespassing signs everywhere, groomed trails in the middle of woods, so there is no way to confuse this land for public land, they know they are poaching.

these pictures were taken Sept 15, 2015 near Granite Falls



Moderators, if this is inappropriate please let me know and delete it, I just figured posting this to the hunting community gives them a chance to police their own for the better of the sport.

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[clearconscience]

Amen, I hope you catch them. These are the people that ruin it for all of us.
I hate poachers.

 

[salmonriverjohn]

Good luck, hope you get him. It's the knowingly trespassing on another's land that I find hard to take.

I've know those that have taken game out of season to feed their family, and I've met aholes that take game out of season to feed their egos,,,
I catch me one of them, their nailed if I can do anything about it.
But if I caught a father and son in a beat old truck sliding a deer in the back, well?

This dirtbag knows full well what he's doing and where =thrill killer, the worst kind.

 

[Oathkeeper1775]

I bet the State Police (or game warden) would like to get a copy....

My (retired reconnaissance specialist) hunch; by the way he was dressed, he is a local handyman, delivery driver, or something in the service industry, who stopped-off to hunt while going to or from a job in the neighborhood.

If you have a wealthy neighbor who hires-out for a lot of jobs on his land or in his home, he may know who it is.....money attracts a lot of people.

 

[Oathkeeper1775]

Good luck, hope you get him. It's the knowingly trespassing on another's land that I find hard to take.

I've know those that have taken game out of season to feed their family, and I've met aholes that take game out of season to feed their egos,,,
I catch me one of them, their nailed if I can do anything about it.
But if I caught a father and son in a beat old truck sliding a deer in the back, well?

This dirtbag knows full well what he's doing and where =thrill killer, the worst kind.

Especially the poachers who prey on the backyard animals which are easier to harvest...cause it ain't my idea of hunting.

 

[Kruel J]

I hope you get him!!

 

[addiction]

Sheriff and Fish and Wildlife have been contacted and have the pictures, no additional sightings since this one. I am walking the land dawn and dusk now, mixed on if I want to ever see him or anyone one else out there....but ready if I do.

 

[The Heretic]

Go armed - some of these people are not at all adverse to using violence against humans when they are caught, and some insist they are not trespassing.

Is it out of season for bow hunting there? Or is this guy just trespassing on private property? Some people simply assume that any undeveloped property outside of the city is public land and don't know any better.

 

[addiction]

Go armed - some of these people are not at all adverse to using violence against humans when they are caught, and some insist they are not trespassing.

Is it out of season for bow hunting there? Or is this guy just trespassing on private property? Some people simply assume that any undeveloped property outside of the city is public land and don't know any better.

Thanks for the advice, I always travel armed, when I walk the trail I am visibly ARmed if you get my meaning....

Two years ago I caught another guy up there setting up an a deer stand, he said he looked on Google maps, saw my trails and figured it was a good place to try hunting. I told him it was private and to haul bubblegum off ASAP. I then did some research to find out the rules, it is their obligation to know where they are hunting and not to go on to private land. So if I catch someone else I will be less forgiving.

I also always carry a phone, camera, and radio (to home base where wife is) so I can call it in and get officers there quickly.

and yes early bow season is open if I read the regs correctly

http://wdfw.wa.gov/hunting/regulations/

 

[clearconscience]

But as you said there are no tresspassing signs you put up.
Ignorance is no excuse for the law.

 

[The Heretic]

That's good to hear. I haven't hunted here in Oregon in decades, but my understanding is that it is now similar; it is the responsibility of the hunter to know whether they are on private property or not, and if they are on private property without permission then it can go bad for them. I don't know the details, but it seems like a good thing, especially with urban/suburban population growth.

 

[Oathkeeper1775]

That's good to hear. I haven't hunted here in Oregon in decades, but my understanding is that it is now similar; it is the responsibility of the hunter to know whether they are on private property or not, and if they are on private property without permission then it can go bad for them. I don't know the details, but it seems like a good thing, especially with urban/suburban population growth.

True, but in order to bring the full weight of the law upon illegal tresspass in Oregon, there are specifics on how land must be posted.

For one thing, the posted signs must be a certain-minimum size spaced properly, and have the landowner's name & address, etc.

It's best when they break the plane into a curtilage, or refuse to leave (display the slightest-intent to argue/stay), after being notified; it brings a heavier fine.

Zero-tolerence is the best way to help people learn to respect the property of others....

 

[addiction]

True, but in order to bring the full weight of the law upon illegal trespass in Oregon, there are specifics on how land must be posted.

Similar laws in Wa, basically there has to be no way for them to get onto the place where they are without seeing a sign or ducking a fence. Life becomes hard for them if they refuse to leave when asked. Those are the rules for trespass, poaching I think has a completely different set of laws, however from what I can tell until they kill, it is actually only trespassing....

That said, not a good idea walking around trespassing with a deadly weapon in the ready position unless you want to be greeted by the owner accordingly.

 

[The Heretic]

http://www.oregonlive.com/clackamascounty/index.ssf/2009/11/sandy_man_cited_for_illegally.html

 

[clearconscience]

True technically think about you living in the city if someone was walking in my backyard with a weapon of any kind I would take that as a threat to my or my families bodily harm.

If I owned 100 acres I would act the same.

 

[bolus]

http://www.oregonlive.com/clackamascounty/index.ssf/2009/11/sandy_man_cited_for_illegally.html

Im happy to hear the deer did not go to waste.

 

[salmonriverjohn]

http://www.oregonlive.com/clackamascounty/index.ssf/2009/11/sandy_man_cited_for_illegally.html

I actually have seen this critter live on the hoof.
My kid brother was the care taker of camp Namanu on the Sandy river for years. I've taken a few nice bulls there (all permissioned) over the years.
There are some really nice bucks and bulls around the area, but the majority of the land around this area is private, you may be surprised what a little work for hunting permission can do.
At least ask permission, you just never know!

 

[salmonriverjohn]

True technically think about you living in the city if someone was walking in my backyard with a weapon of any kind I would take that as a threat to my or my families bodily harm.

If I owned 100 acres I would act the same.

I feel the same way, if a man asks first and I have a chance to measure him, well,, I've let more than a few go across the back fourty into the National forest behind the place.

Let me catch a man without permission on the "posted" property armed, and we may just be looking at felony criminal trespass.

The dogs caught a man just behind the house trying to retrieve a buck that had staggered onto the place after being hit. Hell I helped him find it and pack it down to my polebarn.

He was a good man trying to do the right thing and honestly didn't know where he was.
Him and I became good friends over the years, he has never asked for permission to hunt after all these years, go figure.

 

[Oregonhunter5]

I wonder when back in history did hunting on private property became a big deal.
I'm guessing it was not till the 1900's.
Not that support trespassing.
My brother met a guy over here while spotting deer for a tough to get buck tag. He owns 1 million acres in the Owyhees.
Ibe always had good luck getting permission.
Just tend the gates.

 

[jbett98]

When I lived in the country, feral dogs were more of a problem then trespassers.
All of the trails on the property were more or less short range pistol ranges and most days they were hiked on and the metal plates were clanging with at lease a couple of rounds.
That alone kept most folks away from the trout fish ponds and deer/elk trails.