Carrying on an ATV or Dirtbike...

[glockguy]

There was a thread Started about carrying on a street but i didnt wanna high jack that...

So is it illegal to carry on a ATV? Concealed or Openly? Iv heard it was, but seems pretty stupid ...

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[Riot]

It's fine...I'd try a shoulder holster

*edit*

Just noticed you were in Oregon...no idea the laws on that.

 

[Kimber Custom]

It is illegal:

821.240 Operating snowmobile or all-terrain vehicle while carrying firearm or bow; penalty. (1) A person commits the offense of operating a snowmobile or an all-terrain vehicle while carrying a firearm or bow if the person operates any snowmobile or all-terrain vehicle with a firearm in the possession of the person, unless the firearm is unloaded, or with a bow, unless all arrows are in a quiver.

(2) The offense described in this section, operating a snowmobile or an all-terrain vehicle while carrying a firearm or bow, is a Class B traffic violation. [1983 c.338 §729; 1985 c.393 §45; 1985 c.459 §31a; 1987 c.587 §14; 1989 c.991 §15a; 1991 c.589 §1]

https://www.oregonlegislature.gov/bills_laws/ors/ors821.html

166.360 defines loaded as:
(3) "Loaded firearm" means:

(a) A breech-loading firearm in which there is an unexpended cartridge or shell in or attached to the firearm including but not limited to, in a chamber, magazine or clip which is attached to the firearm.

https://www.oregonlegislature.gov/bills_laws/ors/ors166.html

Further discussed here with full ORS definitions of what is and isn't an ATV:
http://www.northwestfirearms.com/legal-political/26658-atv-snowmobilers-chl-holder-fyi.html

 

[glockguy]

So uhhh how can people hunt an carry a rifle on their ATV while hunting?

 

[SPU]

They ignore the law and take their chances. Or ride with an unloaded gun.

 

[Nwcid]

So uhhh how can people hunt an carry a rifle on their ATV while hunting?

By having it unloaded till you get off to hunt.

Same way people legally have to in WA unless you are a disabled hunter.

 

[Phillyfan]

Now, does "unloaded" mean not chambered, or that there are no rounds in the magazine? I was under the impression that this law was more of a safety concern than anything.

 

[JGRuby]

My understanding is that you can have aloaded firearm if you ahve a ccw - just like you cannto have a loaded firearm in a car or a truck legally unless you have a CCW. Correct me if the law says differently please.

Respectfully

James Ruby

 

[EZLivin]

You cannot legally carry a loaded firearm when riding an atv, dirt bike, etc., in Oregon. Concealed permit does not matter. The weapon cannot be loaded. Don't have a link handy, but I looked into it a few months ago and got a definite "No."

 

[JGRuby]

Since I dont have an ATV except my F150 it really is a mute point to me - but thanks for clearing it up.

Respectfully

James Ruby

 

[MrNiceGuy]

There was a thread Started about carrying on a street but i didnt wanna high jack that...

So is it illegal to carry on a ATV? Concealed or Openly? Iv heard it was, but seems pretty stupid ...

I'll just repost my answer from the previous thread that you didnt want to "high jack".

Wow, there's a bunch of misinformed gun owners in here. Glad to see that some have done their research.

It is illegal to carry a loaded weapon on an ATV. On your streetbike it is legal.

suggested reading:


Oregon Firearms Federation

Now, does "unloaded" mean not chambered, or that there are no rounds in the magazine? I was under the impression that this law was more of a safety concern than anything.

Safety? No. It's to deter illegal hunting... which is almost equally as stupid.
"loaded" is up to the officers discretion, but most LEO's i've talked too agree that a round does not have to be chambered for the gun to be considered "loaded". A loaded magazine and an empty chamber is still considered a loaded firearm.

 

[Kimber Custom]

166.360 defines loaded as:
(3) "Loaded firearm" means:

(a) A breech-loading firearm in which there is an unexpended cartridge or shell in or attached to the firearm including but not limited to, in a chamber, magazine or clip which is attached to the firearm.

https://www.oregonlegislature.gov/bills_laws/ors/ors166.html

 

[cwegga]

Since I dont have an ATV except my F150 it really is a mute point to me - but thanks for clearing it up.

Respectfully

James Ruby

Well, think again. If you are 4x4ing your F150 counts as far as I can tell.

Class II ATV
ORS 801.193 defines a Class II ATV as any motor vehicle that:

Weighs more than a Class I ATV (800 pounds);
Is designed for or capable of cross-country travel on or immediately over land, water, sand, snow, ice, swampland or other natural terrain; and
Is actually being operated off a highway or is being operated on a highway for agricultural purposes under ORS 821.191.

 

[MrNiceGuy]

166.360 defines loaded as:
(3) "Loaded firearm" means:

(a) A breech-loading firearm in which there is an unexpended cartridge or shell in or attached to the firearm including but not limited to, in a chamber, magazine or clip which is attached to the firearm.

https://www.oregonlegislature.gov/bills_laws/ors/ors166.html

Great find!
I just printed it out.

 

[Phillyfan]

"Safety? No. It's to deter illegal hunting... which is almost equally as stupid."

I agree, that is stupid. So guys can drive up and down the logging roads with a round in the chamber, drinking beers (and throwing them on the side of the road), ready to stumble out at any moment to shoot whatever jumps in front of them, but someone on an ATV can't even have a round in the magazine? It's not like we are going to chase down the elk, and shoot it from the back of our moving Kawasaki! Safety is the only thing that makes sense to me, so I am just going to convince myself that it is what they really had in mind when they made the law. It will just help me deal with it.

 

[MrNiceGuy]

It will just help me deal with it.

I've found it's better if you dont try to justify most laws.

Try to change them, in the mean time you just have to abide by them.

 

[Phillyfan]

Well, I'll leave my rifle or bow unloaded, but not my pistol. That's there for my protection. More from the drunk road hunters than the wildlife!

 

[i8asquirrel]

I atv in central Oregon alot and have had several interactions with LEO's out and about while armed. Only a few times have I had the officer even ask about my rifles in the rack. I have never been asked if I was also carrying a sidearm....CONCEALED MEANS CONCEALED

 

[Stomper]

I atv in central Oregon alot and have had several interactions with LEO's out and about while armed. Only a few times have I had the officer even ask about my rifles in the rack. I have never been asked if I was also carrying a sidearm....CONCEALED MEANS CONCEALED

THIS!

 

[ablaut]

Wasn't there a bill proposed just a few days ago which would make it legal to carry a loaded firearm on ATVs? I haven't heard anything since Tuesday or so...