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Discussion in 'General Firearm Discussion' started by Shadow, Sep 26, 2010.

  1. Shadow

    Shadow Conyers, Georgia, United States Member

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    I was hiking in the Appalachian mountains a few weeks ago and came across a couple of aggressive dogs. I pulled out my 9mm (which I carry while hiking) and fired a round in their general direction and fortunately scared them off. I guess this is the first time I've had to fire my gun in self defense.

    While I continued my hike it made me think, if this had been a wild animal like a cougar or a bear, the 9mm would have been useless. Thus, I am now in the market for a shotgun. I have decided on the Mossberg 500 but am confused on how to carry a shotgun while hiking. I use an Osprey Kestrel 38 backpack.

    Does anyone carry a shotgun while hiking and how do you carry it? I've seen the Mossberg 500 JIC series but that seems like precious time would be lost to get it off my shoulder and out of the container.

    Any help is greatly appreciated!

    On a side note, practice makes perfect. I practice regularly pulling out of my shoulder holster and side holster as well as I go to the range regularly and frequently. I noticed that this practice payed off as without hesitation I unclipped my shoulder holster pulled the gun and took off the safety in one seemless motion. If I had snagged the gun on the holster or had trouble unclipping the holster or forgot to take the safety off I may have been a victim. Practice, practice, practice!
     
  2. sprice37

    sprice37 Albany Oregon Active Member

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    If you are not satisfied with the 9mm why not just get a 40 or 45 in the same platform?
     
  3. gunnails

    gunnails Hillsboro Active Member

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    dogattack.jpg :laugh:
     
  4. Just Jim

    Just Jim Well-Known Member

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    My foreman was driving into town along a country road right next to a state police barracks. It was just about daylight and saw a cougar run across the road. Not a hundred yards down the road was a jogger. This is right next to a state capital with alot of people in the area. Salem Or.

    He warned the jogger and the cougar has been seen again.

    There is an outfit that makes a chest holster for Mountain Guns that is made for riding a quad. It would work very well for a backpacker should he be attacked as your hands would automaticly go to defend the body. Think it's by Gunmate. I have one and it holds my gun very comfortable plus it has six loops on the front for ammo.

    jj
     
  5. Tactical SS

    Tactical SS Washington Member

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    Could always get a 7 shot .357 Magnum or a .44 Magnum.
     
  6. Gaust

    Gaust Portland Member

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    I agree that a larger caliber hand gun would be a better way to go for hiking. If you are set on a shotgun, you might consider a shotgun scabbard secured to the side of your pack.
     
  7. spengo

    spengo GLORIOUS CASCADIA Active Member

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    2nding bigass revolver. One with a 6" barrel too for the extra velocity. Plus, they are tons of fun on the range! :D
     
  8. jordanvraptor

    jordanvraptor Oregon City, Oregon Well-Known Member

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    .357 SIG would be a good auto pistol.
     
  9. huntpotter

    huntpotter SW WA Negotiator Bronze Supporter

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    stick it in your backpack, Book of Eli style.
     
  10. Ben Beckerich

    Ben Beckerich NW Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    i really don't think any other pistol is going to be more effective against animals. a 9mm with a good load- 124gr gold dots, for instance- is probably about as effective as any 40 or 45, but easier to fire rapidly. thats why people carry them.

    moving to a magnum caliber will probably improve terminal ballistics, but at a substantial sacrifice to shootability. recoil mitigation, ammunition capacity, handling, and reload speed are all shot to crap with revolvers.

    shotguns perform really well in terminal ballistics, and are a far cry better than magnum handguns for shootability, but still suffer in shootability, ammunition capacity, and reload speed.

    therefor, i carry a carbine with me in the woods, and always recommend it to others. semiautomatic .223s, like ARs and minis, pack some pretty destructive firepower, in an extremely shootable platform.. and reloads are a snap.

    remember that animals are really fast and agile. and they're really hard to hit when running at you, for some reason. you want to be able to put a high volume of accurate fire at em as quickly as possible.

    my 2 cents
     
  11. gehrheart

    gehrheart fidalgo island Well-Known Member

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    coming from Alaska i am in the practice of hiking and fishing with a shotgun pump (I carry a Nova) or a 30-30 carbine lever gun. I have handgun .44 and .45 long. I come from a thinking that if you think you may need a gun, carry a long gun when you can. I don't think anything tops a good lever 30-30 for speed lightweight easy to swing, good round count, however it is not very tacti-cool.

    however it might be a good reason to get that .50ae I dream about at night....
     
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  12. 22many

    22many PNW Well-Known Member

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  13. Mudpuppy

    Mudpuppy Yamhill county Member

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    I agree with some others. I would go with a Smith and Wesson 686p with a 2 or 2.5" barrel. I do agree with bkb0000 also though that modern 9mm loads areclose to if not just as potent as some of your larger calibers.
     
  14. Triplebuckshot

    Triplebuckshot Northwest Oregon Member

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    Being from North Idaho originally and living in Alaska most of my adult life I carry a shotgun (as my name suggest's). I even carry the 500a

    Get a collapsable stock. Here is a link to a local Alaska Forum on just such a topic.

    Room Brooms (Shotguns) Ultimate Mossberg Build - Alaska 4x4 Network

    Collapsing stock, Vang Barrel, Extended Tube.....go go go
     
  15. Shadow

    Shadow Conyers, Georgia, United States Member

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    Thank you, I'll look into that.
     
  16. Shadow

    Shadow Conyers, Georgia, United States Member

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    I've done a little research on the .357 and .44. There's a lot of disagreement between their ability to stop large animal attacks; unless one is a crack shot but I guess that would be the case with any caliber pistol.

    Also, there is the cost factor. I have a small budget and can get a good shotgun very cheap at the gun shows in GA.
     
  17. Shadow

    Shadow Conyers, Georgia, United States Member

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    Mudpuppy and bkb0000,
    The rounds I carry, and used in that hiking incident, are 147gr JHP. Is there a more potent round available?

    22many,
    The super shorty looks interesting. Easy to carry.

    Triplebuckshot,
    Thanks for the advice on the collapsable stock.

    Thank you all for your input!
     
  18. mjbskwim

    mjbskwim Salmon,Idaho Well-Known Member

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    I think for an animal other than a grizzly down here,not Alaska,a 9mm would at least fend them off.
    And I have always heard that personal defence loads aren't the best for animals.You should use heavy solid core or FMJ loads.
    Now I would agree,if you have a convenient way to carry it,a lever 30-30 would be a great gun,but if you can handle the grip,a 10mm is a great round and I have talked to many who use it for hunting.
    As said,animals are fast,do you really want to try to get the rifle/shotgun out?
    In Alaska I could see wanting a shotgun or rifle for sure.Or around Jellystone for grizzlies.

    I would bet your 9 will take care of most predators in the lower 48 at attack range.You don't think 10+ 9mm would drop a cat?
     
  19. mjbskwim

    mjbskwim Salmon,Idaho Well-Known Member

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    These I would use a wrist rocket and some marshmallows