This place never ceases to amaze me with what everyone knows, and I need some wisdom.
We have a two year old car that has 28,000 miles on it. We bought it new, cash price was $34k. We have liked the car, but it developed an intermittent miss at idle about 12-15 months ago. Nothing major, but definitely noticeable and not correct. When we took it in for other work we brought it up and they said not to worry, it would probably clear up. Fast forward a little bit to later last year, and I take it in specifically for that issue, because it's getting worse. It had about 24k miles at that time. They say they can't replicate the problem, but they did a ECM reflash for an update.
it did not get better. I called the manufacturer, and they said try another dealer. So I did. I left it with them while I was out of town. They also say they can't replicate the problem, but to switch gas stations and run some fuel system cleaner through. I did try another station, and I used the potent bottle of Chevron Techron, and a bottle of Redline through on different oil changes.
As an extra bit of info, I have plugged into the OBDII port with my own scantool, and have seen where the ECM is logging misfires (very few, but they're there) but not enough to trigger a code.
Well the last straw was that the vehicle has started having intermittent hesitation issues on the road. I now have another appointment with the original dealer Thursday for another exploration, but I'm not hopeful.
All that said, I would really just like the car we have to work. I suspect an injector, but nobody seems interested in figuring it out the old fashioned way. Here's the thing, and this is what I am struggling with: the dealer has proposed we trade the car in. They said they would work with me, but I'm not sure if that's code for work me over, or they're genuinely trying to help/avoid lemon law compilations? Any thoughts? We are close to paying this one off, and I have no interest in starting the process over again "just because". But I'm also starting to doubt the reliability of this particular car unless they can actually fix it.
We have a two year old car that has 28,000 miles on it. We bought it new, cash price was $34k. We have liked the car, but it developed an intermittent miss at idle about 12-15 months ago. Nothing major, but definitely noticeable and not correct. When we took it in for other work we brought it up and they said not to worry, it would probably clear up. Fast forward a little bit to later last year, and I take it in specifically for that issue, because it's getting worse. It had about 24k miles at that time. They say they can't replicate the problem, but they did a ECM reflash for an update.
it did not get better. I called the manufacturer, and they said try another dealer. So I did. I left it with them while I was out of town. They also say they can't replicate the problem, but to switch gas stations and run some fuel system cleaner through. I did try another station, and I used the potent bottle of Chevron Techron, and a bottle of Redline through on different oil changes.
As an extra bit of info, I have plugged into the OBDII port with my own scantool, and have seen where the ECM is logging misfires (very few, but they're there) but not enough to trigger a code.
Well the last straw was that the vehicle has started having intermittent hesitation issues on the road. I now have another appointment with the original dealer Thursday for another exploration, but I'm not hopeful.
All that said, I would really just like the car we have to work. I suspect an injector, but nobody seems interested in figuring it out the old fashioned way. Here's the thing, and this is what I am struggling with: the dealer has proposed we trade the car in. They said they would work with me, but I'm not sure if that's code for work me over, or they're genuinely trying to help/avoid lemon law compilations? Any thoughts? We are close to paying this one off, and I have no interest in starting the process over again "just because". But I'm also starting to doubt the reliability of this particular car unless they can actually fix it.
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