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Can't afford good expensive packs..made my own!

Discussion in 'Preparedness & Survival' started by CamoDeafie, Oct 15, 2014.

  1. CamoDeafie

    CamoDeafie Albany Well-Known Member

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    Couldn't justify ordering a Snugpak Endurance 40 pack since it doesn't have a frame or removable suspension that I could see; so I decided to buy 2 yards of 430D Nylon Packcloth (same material as ALICE fabric) in Olive Drab and lots of webbing and hardware....laid out the fabric, drew the patterns for the various components....most difficult part was just sewing the divider in the main pack body....

    it is roughly 55 and a half Liters, and took me 3-4 hours just to make it..In hindsight, it probably would be worth buying an existing pack and modifying it....
    Specs;
    Upper Main compartment; 12"x9"x13"; 23 Liters roughly
    Lower Main compartment; 12"x9"x9"; 16 Liters roughly
    Upper Side tunnel sewn pouches; 9"x11"x4" 6.5 Liters roughly
    Lower Side tunnel sewn pouches; 5"x5"x3" (deeper than standard 5x5 pouches) 1.1 Liters roughly
    Webbing on sides for LC gear
    Mounts via Ladderlocs and 1" straps
    Compatible with ALICE and Civilian Hiking packs, presumably also compatible with MOLLE frames of both 1603 and 1606AC types, but not compatible with the 1609 frame, At least I don't think so...
    PICS!
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    On the Large Hiking frame

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    Quarter view showing side pouches and canteen cover

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    Top mounting system

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    Bottom of pack; I might add an U shaped panel with elastic edge to cover the inside.....

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    Drawstring panel on bottom

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    Webbing on sides for canteens or LC pouches

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    Large upper side pouch; same size as MOLLE Sustainment pouch, but with two buckles instead of one


    on ALICE frame, this is the reason for the specific measurement of the top and bottom attachment points; 18" from ladderloc to ladderloc...and 4" apart

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    showing much shorter frame

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    showing frame and stock ALICE suspension.

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    top corner mounts

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    Bottom corner mounts; uses same hole as the standard ALICE pack

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    Bottom mounts; uses the slots of the ALICE frame; there's enough strapping to lash other things between flap and straps.


    Well there you go! Hope you guys enjoyed it! It will go on a trip pretty soon and depending on how it feels, I might do some more work on it, or leave it as is...

    As to what it has to do with Survival and Preparedness....sometimes you can't just buy something you need for your gear; so you scavenge fabrics and equipment to make your own gear... This pack is inspired by the British Bergen pack designs but in modern lightweight materials and with an external frame as opposed to internal frame;
    I am considering finding a working treadle cabinet/table for my 1920s? Singer 99 sewing machine so that I can sew without needing electricity (good practice for survival situations....also a good way to get paid/barter when people inevitably need to have something sewn/repaired. In short, it is a marketable skill and a very useful skill to know for situations, along with the skill to fix anything, everything, gunsmithing, automotive, scavenging. Also; this pack replaces my Hellcat pack I just sold.
     
  2. Sgt Nambu

    Sgt Nambu Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Looks good, great job!:D
     
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  3. AMProducts

    AMProducts Maple Valley, WA Jerk, Ammo Manufacturer Silver Supporter

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    That's really cool. Looks great too!
     
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  4. U201491

    U201491 Well-Known Member

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    NICE LOOKING PACKS. Good Job :)
     
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  5. erudne

    erudne The Pie Matrix PPL Say Sleeping W/Your Rifle Is A bad Thing? Bronze Supporter

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    Holy Tactical Tailor Batman!:)
     
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  6. CamoDeafie

    CamoDeafie Albany Well-Known Member

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    I'd like to work for that company someday..... :) or London Bridge Trading Company.... preferably TT as they're in the NW (Although this pack design would definitely be taken off the market for a while if I work for TT due to competition clause in contract, and things of that sort, so as not to interfere with their current MALICE pack business... :rolleyes: )
     
  7. Windsor

    Windsor Myrtle Creek OR Active Member

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    Nice pack. Makes me miss being able to do ruck marches.
     
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  8. LoneStar

    LoneStar WA Active Member

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    Those look well made. I bet they will hold up better than the made in china crap.
     
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  9. CamoDeafie

    CamoDeafie Albany Well-Known Member

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    thanks! I'm not sure where the store got the fabric from though, but yes I try to match the quality of the ALICE and MOLLE equipment :)
     
  10. Stomper

    Stomper Oceania Rising White Is The New Brown Silver Supporter

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    Well done, and I can relate to the satisfaction of conceiving, designing, and building/fabricating something from scratch. Not a lot of folks are willing or capable of doing that.

    That being said, is there a reason a fully kitted surplus large ALICE rucksack and frame wouldn't have sufficed? They came in small, medium, and large. The small and medium could also be used w/o the frame.
     
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  11. CamoDeafie

    CamoDeafie Albany Well-Known Member

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    well I couldn't find a Large locally for the price that justified buying it...though I used to have one and found it to not be what I was looking for. The pack I made...its more useful for me for its size because I can use the compartments for more than just canteens or food. The bottom is for either sleeping bag or hammock set up and the top is just clothes while th6e two large pouches are for foods and extra water and misc items..the two small pouches are first aid kit and tarp plus fire starting kit with esbit folding stove...while canteen covers holds canteens and cups. This set up on a more comfortable hiking frame with the modified shoulder straps and belt is far more comfortable than the stock medium ALICE with Frame and original suspension system.
     
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  12. Stomper

    Stomper Oceania Rising White Is The New Brown Silver Supporter

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    IC... you did a stellar job!
     
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