Poll: Cannibalism

[Just Jim]

Between June of 1941 and January 1942, at the hight of Hitler's Operation Barbarossa, approximately 2.8 million Soviet prisoners of war were forcibly starved to death by their German captors. Soviet POW deaths were approaching 1% per capita per day. Many desperate men resorted to cannibalism in order to survive.

Please tell me, how a prisoner, held captive in an open-air barbed wired 'cattle pen' with hundreds of thousands of other men, with no supplies or food, where the only shelter he might have had was a hole he dug out of the ground with his bare hands, was lazy and unwilling to work for food if he resorted to eating dead bodies to live?

Its very...very...easy to be judgmental of such men when our bellies are full and we don't have to worry about where our next meal is coming from.

Keith

To be captured means you gave up the fight which means they were "unwilling". The decay to cannibalism is the self centered end of what was a semi civilized person.
The nazi army and the Russian were socialist, if you read where they came from and their beliefs then you can understand why cannibalism would be the end result.

When the Germans surrendered they had the same fate, the Russians remembered.
jj

 

[pdx lefty]

Between June of 1941 and January 1942, at the hight of Hitler's Operation Barbarossa, approximately 2.8 million Soviet prisoners of war were forcibly starved to death by their German captors. Soviet POW deaths were approaching 1% per capita per day. Many desperate men resorted to cannibalism in order to survive.

Please tell me, how a prisoner, held captive in an open-air barbed wired 'cattle pen' with hundreds of thousands of other men, with no supplies or food, where the only shelter he might have had was a hole he dug out of the ground with his bare hands, was lazy and unwilling to work for food if he resorted to eating dead bodies to live?

Its very...very...easy to be judgmental of such men when our bellies are full and we don't have to worry about where our next meal is coming from.

Keith

I think Jim was Just trying to inject some comedy into this discussion.

 

[trainsktg]

To be captured means you gave up the fight which means they were "unwilling". The decay to cannibalism is the self centered end of what was a semi civilized person.
The nazi army and the Russian were socialist, if you read where they came from and their beliefs then you can understand why cannibalism would be the end result.

When the Germans surrendered they had the same fate, the Russians remembered.
jj

Like I said, its easy to criticize...

The members of the Donner-Reed party were apparently Socialists too. As were the crew of the Essex. And the Uruguayan Air Force Flight 571 survivors.

Keith

 

[Just Jim]

Like I said, its easy to criticize...

The members of the Donner-Reed party were apparently Socialists too. As were the crew of the Essex. And the Uruguayan Air Force Flight 571 survivors.

Keith

Nope not socialist but self centered opertunist. Keith I really don't care about the choices of others untill it affects me and my loved ones. You think you need to eat dead people to keep yourself alive in bad times then it's your choice.

A civilized society would never let you back in when they know you eat people to keep yourself alive. They would never trust you around their kids and the other social aspects of that choice may be worse than death.

If times got that hard that cannibalism came about then most people would kill the cannibals in the name of protecting their families. In my opinion of course.

Who is most likely to start eating people first, a socialist or a capitalist

jj

 

[trainsktg]

All right...truce.

I must specify that in my case, I certainly can't see myself eating others to survive either, but I also know I can't criticize someone else for the decisions they've made under extreme duress unless I've been through that same trauma.

The surviving crew of the Essex were reintegrated back into Nantucket society, as I believe were the Andean survivors.

Keith

 

[Just Jim]

Would you want a man who turned cannibal living next to you and your kids?

I mean when you look the person in the eye you know when it comes right down to it he is willing to eat you and your kids to keep himself alive. Good neighbor? How about all the guys here posting they are willing to kill and eat you so they may go on?

jj

 

[trainsktg]

I think if you reread the thread, and weed out the obvious joke posts, the vast majority of folks here would not rule out eating someone who was already dead, albeit with extreme reluctance. I think there is a very small minority of folks who would kill another human to eat, and those are probably the same folks who would have no hesitation to kill you to get the $100 in your pocket or the car you are driving.

Keith

 

[Just Jim]

I gonna let this go, no need to waste time any more on the subject.

Nice talking to ya Keith.

jj

 

[Bad Droid]

All right...truce.

I must specify that in my case, I certainly can't see myself eating others to survive either, but I also know I can't criticize someone else for the decisions they've made under extreme duress unless I've been through that same trauma.
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Keith

You have conveyed things much better than I. I don't think I have the will power to go through the pain of starvation to avoid breaking a moral code over the other option of having the ability to rid myself of those hunger pains and to live on. Besides, I'm a pretty good cook.

 

[lowspeed-highdrag]

A little tongue in cheek, but I thought I'd share something from the underside of the interwebs.

Butchering the Human Carcass

There is a recipe at the bottom. If any of you try it, please don't ever tell me about it.

 

[ZA_Survivalist]

If it was legal and there was no health repercussions.. heck, why not get a little at the store?

In a Survival Situation.. we better be friends or at the least civil to one another.. otherwise, you wind up on my dinner plate.

..Just saying.

 

[Father of four]

In a Survival Situation.. we better be friends or at the least civil to one another.. otherwise, you wind up on my dinner plate.

..Just saying.

Or you lose and wind up worm food.

 

[ZA_Survivalist]

Or you lose and wind up worm food.

I'd like to see that happen.
(Saying this with no intent of sounding macho or having an inflated ego)

I'd be that super nice guy with the "Mr.Rogers esque" Sweater and a Smile that'd win over the hearts of many. A True Friend and Neighbor.. The Least Obvious in the room, but down in the Cellar.. there'd be a butcher shop filled with.. well you can imagine the rest.

I'd be like the folks from Andale. (FO3)
But only if thy neighbors lose their civility, then they're lunch meat.

But in all reality, in a SHTF scenario I wouldn't be apart of any town or faction. I'd be a distant "Watcher".. well a Stalker..
(I could write a whole thread on my tactics as well as what I would and wouldn't do in a Post apocalyptic SHTF scenario.)

 

[snew]

I want to eat Just Jim only because he's so judgemental.

 

[Father of four]

In a real Survival Situation alot of people who think they would have it all handled would see it ain't that easy. Stuff happens. Someone who is bigger badder, faster, and tougher is always around the next corner. No matter how hard we try we can always have our rears kicked.

ZA_Survivalist, you might be that man. Maybe not. If so, I taste horrible!

 

[Just Jim]

I want to eat Just Jim only because he's so judgemental.

I got a spot you can start on

jj

 

[trainsktg]

I gonna let this go, no need to waste time any more on the subject.
jj

Hey...I thought you left us?

Keith (I knew you couldn't stay away :winkkiss

 

[i8asquirrel]

Are you kidding me, of course I would. I will do what ever it takes to keep me and mine going

 

[BigCat]

A little tongue in cheek, but I thought I'd share something from the underside of the interwebs.

Butchering the Human Carcass

There is a recipe at the bottom. If any of you try it, please don't ever tell me about it.

Creepy read!

 

[lowspeed-highdrag]

Creepy read!

Things like this make me feel a little better about myself. Despite what my wife claims, I'm less crazy than a lot of people out there.