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Can you load .30-06 with .308 dies?

Discussion in 'Ammunition & Reloading' started by PaulB47, Jun 7, 2016.

  1. PaulB47

    PaulB47 Hillsboro Well-Known Member

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    I have .308's and the dies to reload them, but nothing in .30-06. Of course my nephew bought a .30-06 gun. :rolleyes:

    Now I need to load some light loads for him, and I don't want to invest in .30-06 dies.

    I was thinking of using my .308 dies to do a "partial neck sizing" and wonder if I can get away with this, until I need to bump the shoulders back anyway. Sound doable? Seater die should have no problem either, right?
     
  2. Caveman Jim

    Caveman Jim West of Oly Springer Slayer 2016 Volunteer

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    So far of what I have learned about reloading is to do it by the book. I would "invest" in the right tools for the job just to be safe but that's the way I was taught.

    Subscribed.
     
  3. Velzey

    Velzey Estacada, Oregon Gunsmith Gunsmith Bronze Vendor Bronze Supporter

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    Yes, just screw it down to where you just do a partial neck size and it will be fine. You can actually do most of the neck.
    Keep them marked as to what rifle they have been fired from and all is fine.
     
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  4. Capn Jack

    Capn Jack Wet-Stern Washington Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    $10.00 - $15.00 on e-bay, Why bother messing up your .308 settings:rolleyes::p
     
  5. v0lcom13sn0w

    v0lcom13sn0w Keizer, or Well-Known Member

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    ^^^this
     
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  6. Sgt Nambu

    Sgt Nambu Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Easy enough, just keep the die off the sholder! Keep the neck sized rounds separate, as with all neck sized rounds.
    That said, I, also, think you would be better off to buy a die set.
    Hey, have your nephew buy them!:D
     
  7. Otter

    Otter Oregon - mid Willamette Valley Active Member

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    A nephew with an eye patch is attractive. Or with missing fingers. At the worst, another nephew is probably cheap enough if it really goes wrong...certainly cheaper than dies.
     
  8. PaulB47

    PaulB47 Hillsboro Well-Known Member

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    I'm trying to get out of new calibers, not get into more of them. Anyway .30-06 fans need to get with the .308 program. :)
     
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  9. Capn Jack

    Capn Jack Wet-Stern Washington Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    OOPS !!!
    Sorry, I had that backwards...That was using .308 Dies to resize 30-06.:confused:
     
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  10. CLT65

    CLT65 Yamhill County Active Member

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    "A nephew with an eye patch is attractive. Or with missing fingers. At the worst, another nephew is probably cheap enough if it really goes wrong...certainly cheaper than dies."

    While I completely agree with the sentiment in regards to safety, there really is nothing inherently unsafe about neck-sizing and reloading 30-06 rounds with 308 dies, as long as you don't set the neck back by sizing too far down (and your loads are safe otherwise). You sound like you know enough about reloading to avoid doing that.

    On the other hand, yes, 308 dies are cheap and plentiful. :)

    Added- bolt action rifle? If so, neck sizing and using that brass for only that rifle should work great for several loadings.
     
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  11. Dyjital

    Dyjital Albany, Ore Flavorite Member Bronze Supporter

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    Sure.

    You will get about 2-3 firings before headspace is super tight and in need of a slight shoulder bump. Then of course..... You need a 30-06 die.
     
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  12. ma96782

    ma96782 Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

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    If your nephew was serious....he could buy the dies.

    BTW....if your nephew is using a bolt action the ammo would likely work with just a neck size. Assuming that the used brass came from the same rifle. But, if he is using a semi auto (like an M1).....don't count on your reloads chambering correctly.

    Aloha, Mark
     
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  13. HotRod61

    HotRod61 Happy Valley Active Member

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    Buy the 3006 dies for your nephew and teach him how to reload You'll be doing him a great favor. Plus spending quality time with him.
    I wish someone would have taught me when I was a kid.

    Good
    Shooting
     
  14. PaulB47

    PaulB47 Hillsboro Well-Known Member

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    Definitely a bolt action. I get very conservative when reloading for a semi-auto. :eek:

    What I really want my nephew to do is get rid of that gun (just a budget Remington that I can't warm up to) and get something like a .243 or 6.5 CM or .260 Rem. He fails the "ball and dummy" test... Anyway when you buy a gun it should be one you really like, not something to save a few bucks.
     
  15. Sgt Nambu

    Sgt Nambu Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    And his .30-06 is bad because?
     
  16. PaulB47

    PaulB47 Hillsboro Well-Known Member

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    Too much recoil in factory loads. Remedy: either light reloads, or a lighter caliber. OK maybe adding weight too. But who wants to do that!
     
  17. Silver Hand

    Silver Hand Southern Oregon Coast Well-Known Member

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    You can't spring for a set of dies?

    Buy them now! Or in risk the inevitable expansion problems you will encounter after firing the brass a few times and hope you never experience more than a torn rim leaving the expanded case jammed in the chamber of your nephews new rifle.
    Silver Hand
     
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  18. PaulB47

    PaulB47 Hillsboro Well-Known Member

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    Actually all I need to do is wait a bit, and the dies will reproduce themselves on my loading shelf. No matter how much I try to keep this stuff to a low roar, my collection of calibers keeps increasing. I'm trying to fight it, like being on a diet.
     
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  19. HotRod61

    HotRod61 Happy Valley Active Member

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    Like when you put that rifle in the safe and when you open it later in front of the wife she's says I don't remember you having all those rifles. Lol
     
  20. Silver Hand

    Silver Hand Southern Oregon Coast Well-Known Member

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    If it weren't for the shipping cost, I could probably make you a good deal on a used set.
    Silver Hand