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California newspaper report of shots fired at paragliders.

Discussion in 'Legal & Political Archive' started by pchewn, Jan 11, 2012.

  1. pchewn

    pchewn Beaverton Oregon USA Well-Known Member

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    Men suspected of firing pellet guns at paragliders plead not guilty - San Jose Mercury News


    So I really want to see this "high caliber" pellet gun the news reports talks about.

     
  2. deen_ad

    deen_ad Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

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    If you're paragliding you have the high ground, might not be too stable but you could get off a shot or two!
     
  3. iomatic

    iomatic Portland Member

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    You'd think at that age you'd be smart enough not to display that sort of behavior. Alas.
     
  4. Ben Beckerich

    Ben Beckerich NW Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    At first I was pretty indignant, but then I read that one was alraedy on probation for doing the exact same thing in '11...

    But still- "deadly weapon" is pretty betarded. I know .22cal air rifles can kill, but it's hardly a "weapon." I think an endangerment charge of similar severity is in order, but calling an air rifle a "deadly weapon" is freaken stupid.
     
  5. jkent26

    jkent26 Rainier, OR Member

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    Don't they make air rifles for hunting? If so then they are deadly.

    This is just stupid and both those guys need to be locked up to protect society from their next act of extreme act of stupidity.
     
  6. Stomper

    Stomper Oceania Rising White Is The New Brown Silver Supporter

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    Yeah... Like breeding.
     
  7. Mark W.

    Mark W. Silverton, OR Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Well a Federal Champion 510 .22LR travels at 1240 fps

    A Stoeger X-50 Air rifle travels at 1200 fps as do many other high quality pellet rifles

    900-1000 fps is very common in a .22 cal airrifle

    SO YES pretty dang nab deadly in my book
     
  8. JimmyS1985

    JimmyS1985 St.Louis Active Member

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    Look up South Carolina Trooper Coates if you want to know how deadly a .22 can be.

    If you don't Ill break it down for you here. Trooper Coates got 5 shots off with his .357 magnum and I think he hit the suspect all 5x. The suspect lived. Trooper Coates got hit once, through the side of his vest, with a .22 that pierced his heart, and killed him.

    If you can find a link of the infamous incident, do post. Its pretty hard to find, mostly cops in training are the only ones who see it.
     
  9. Redcap

    Redcap Lewis County, WA Well-Known Member

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    Trooper Coates was a really bubblegumty shot.
     
  10. Burt Gummer

    Burt Gummer Portland Completely Out of Ammo

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    Guess I am old and out of the loop. When I think of air rifle I think of a Crosman(?) pumped up 30x times with one of those cupped .17 pellets.

    Never knew an air rifle could kill a man without shooting into someone's eye.
     
  11. Ben Beckerich

    Ben Beckerich NW Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Somebody being killed with a .22lr to the heart changes absolutely nothing about the lethality of a .22 cal air rifle.

    Nor even the lethality of the .22lr.

    I could kill you with my phone, I bet... should we classify it as a deadly weapon?
     
  12. Redcap

    Redcap Lewis County, WA Well-Known Member

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    Exactly.
     
  13. Mark W.

    Mark W. Silverton, OR Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    OK so all those deer killed with a .22cal slug traveling at 1000fps means that a .22 cal pellet of the same weight traveling at 1000+ fps isn't deadly. I'm so confused.

    I have friends who fed their familys during the depression with .22 longs bought a few at a time with money from the hides.
     
  14. None2Slow

    None2Slow Caldwell, ID New Member

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  15. AlphaCoyote

    AlphaCoyote Oh, I get around. New Member

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    I think maybe the question whether it's a deadly weapon depends on how it's used. A handkerchief stuffed down a victim's throat and held in place could be a deadly weapon, but thrown at the victim, not so much.
     
  16. gunnails

    gunnails Hillsboro Active Member

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    I've heard of bears being kilt with a pellet gun.
     
  17. Stomper

    Stomper Oceania Rising White Is The New Brown Silver Supporter

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    What about a tea cup... Riddik killed a man with a tea cup. ;)
     
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