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California MicroStamping = Registry. Ruger, Smith & Wesson Ending Sales There

Discussion in 'Legal & Political Archive' started by RicInOR, Jan 23, 2014.

  1. RicInOR

    RicInOR Washington County Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Smith & Wesson to End Most CA Sales Due to Microstamping Regulation

    MILLER: Smith & Wesson to stop selling guns in California due to microstamping law - Washington Times


    "On January 22nd renowned gun maker Smith & Wesson joined Sturm, Ruger, & Co., by announcing it would cease California sales of its semi-automatic pistols due to microstamping requirements that went into effect last year. "

    Microstamping is a gun registry. Guess who would have to have a database of each microstamp?

    (or is it micro-stamping)
     
  2. BAMCIS

    BAMCIS Eugene Well-Known Member

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    This will make the rulers of California happy.
     
  3. ocarolan

    ocarolan Portland, Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Kudos to SW and Ruger.

    Which gun manufacturers ARE planning to implement microstamping? So we know not to buy them.


    In other news... apparently some troglodytes attempted to pass this nationally:

    Federal bill H.R.5266, the National Crime Gun Identification Act of 2008, was written by House Rep. Xavier Becerra (D-CA).[13] Senator Edward Kennedy (MA) introduced an identical companion bill in the Senate.[14]
     
  4. F2CMaDMaXX

    F2CMaDMaXX West of Portland from England Bullet goes where now? Staff Member Bronze Supporter 2015 Volunteer 2016 Volunteer

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    Seems legit...
     
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  5. cueball1214

    cueball1214 Beaverton Active Member

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  6. rufus

    rufus State of Jefferson Well-Known Member

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    Well it's about time, more guns for us.
     
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  7. Nwcid

    Nwcid Yakima and N of Spokane Well-Known Member

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    Is S&W going to cancel all of its agency contracts also? Or just not ship to the common man?
     
  8. RicInOR

    RicInOR Washington County Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Also - DC has the same law, it is currently "suspended" until '16. The idea is to tag on to any manufacturers who will produce for CA.

    But is is a practical block of sales, currently. The technology is not robust - not good enough for a defensive hand gun.

    It is a defacto registry.

    There are lawsuits of course.
     
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  9. RK600

    RK600 SW WA Active Member

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    I'm not so sure it's entirely terrible as one would think. Supreme Court forced Chicago to allow concealed weapons. There is hope yet for gun owners in this day and age. It's a start, right?
     
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  10. cueball1214

    cueball1214 Beaverton Active Member

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    The thing is when one state takes one step forward, another takes 2 or 3 steps back. Registration in Conn. Capacity bans in Colorado and New York. All this stuff in California. These states are not only driving away citizens, they are driving way whole companies that produce tax revenue and jobs.
     
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  11. chariot13

    chariot13 Near Eugene/Springfield Well-Known Member

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    If it were ruled legal to carry concealed without permission (via permit) then there may be hope. But with the way governments are towards control and asking permission before you do anything, including for 'inalienable rights' then the only hope is for that government to cease existing at all, that is until it learns how to play well with others ;)
     
  12. cueball1214

    cueball1214 Beaverton Active Member

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    Government has a huge mommy complex. you have to ask its permission to do anything. Even down to cutting down trees on land you own. Instead of me trying to prove why i should be able to CC, they should be trying to prove why i can't.
     
  13. LogicBomb

    LogicBomb Grants Pass Active Member

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    imagine going to a range and picking up spent brass and "salting" a crime scene with it

    or a little work with a file

    or a revolver

    many many ways that this will not work....just another "feel good" law
     
  14. cookie

    cookie THE SOCIALIST STATE OF KALI - FORNIA Well-Known Member

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    Living in the socialist state of Ka-li-fornia all I can say is good because all the parasite gun owners who never donate $$$ or time to pro gun organizations or politicians got what they earned. Sad for all those who do give.
     
  15. civilian75

    civilian75 Hillsboro, OR Well-Known Member

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    This is a de facto registry indeed, but, worse. If I understand this abomination correctly, it is very much like the NFA "machine gun" registry. Since new handgun availability will be very limited, it will be mostly old grandfathered handguns that will remain to be owned and exchanged between Kali residents. Soon grandfathered handguns price will go up like crazy. This is sad, sad, sad...
     
  16. simon99

    simon99 Central Oregon Well-Known Member

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  17. Greenbug

    Greenbug Bend Well-Known Member

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    Nice.... More for the rest of us!!!!
     
  18. Boomerang

    Boomerang Portland area Active Member

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    S&W and Ruger are both allowing their semi auto handguns to fall off the roster as they make minor improvements that would have otherwise forced them to get re-certified for the roster (and in this case, now would require the microstamping nonsense).
     
  19. simon99

    simon99 Central Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, maybe they'll start making single shot handguns.....great idea.
     
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  20. Mongo1

    Mongo1 Santiam Canyon Active Member

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    calif did make one small improvement a few years ago. The waiting period was shortened from 15 days to 10 days. The law that made my brother and I close our sporting goods store was the one where after a lot of training, I would have to certify the purchaser of a hand gun was "competant to handle it safely" before the transfer/sale was completed. I was concerned if someone I did certify had a accident with that hand gun, the calif dept of justice would sue me into bankruptcy.