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California Losing all AR style weapons thanks to Democrats

Discussion in 'Legal & Political Archive' started by Morrilp, Aug 13, 2012.

  1. Morrilp

    Morrilp Seattle New Member

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    help our brothers and sisters fight the Democrats trying to take away all semi automatic rifles in the state of CA. This law would make all residents felons for owning legally purchased AR style guns. Shame on the Democrats and Obama trying to sneak this through.

    Help STOP CA SB249!
     
  2. Hardwood floor guy

    Hardwood floor guy Beaverton Active Member

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    California is a communist state,they made their own bed.Just sit back and watch them crumble.
     
  3. Rascals

    Rascals Portland Or Active Member

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    What I think they need to do is sue the state for letting those evil gun shops sell them illegal weapons that the state got taxes from. So all the officials who let this crimes go on should be charged with crimes for letting illegal weapons be knowingly sold to the poor defenseless Citizens who depend so much on the Royal Masters who dropped the ball and let them get those evil weapons that they should not have.


    Ohhh wait they should not be illegal. Maybe they should just kick out the evilPoliticianss that do that stuff. If not they get what they deserve.
     
  4. BSG 75

    BSG 75 Oregon Well-Known Member

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    To be fair and accurate, Obama had nothing to do with California SB249. It is the product of California state Sen. Leland Yee (D) of San Francisco.
     
  5. Unka-Boo

    Unka-Boo Milwaukie Active Member

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    I have no love for the man, but the "..and Obama" cracks me up.

    I hope this bites the legislature in the butt if it does pass, all it will do is open up the state for lawsuits. Think Heller....well, might be wishful thinking on my part, but I hope the Cali gun owners the best in their fight.
     
  6. BSG 75

    BSG 75 Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Easier said than done. Just as with Oregon and Washington, gun owners and Republicans are a minority in California. They don't have the votes to "kick out" anyone. The Democrats have controlled the California Legislature for 40 years and because of gerrymandering the state has been divided into safe seats for each party, with Republicans in a permanent minority.

    One of the lessons for Oregon and Washington gun owners is that it is probably wise to encourage pro-gun Democrats (yes they do exist) rather than alienating them, so they can influence the Democratic party from within to keep it from becoming extremely anti-gun, like the California Democratic party is. Otherwise we might end up like California with anti-gun Democrats in power and us lacking the votes to "kick them out". If that happens, gun owners in Texas and Arizona will probably say that Oregon and Washington are communists states that made their own bed, and they'll be lecturing us to just "kick out the evilPoliticianss that do that stuff", and if we don't then we will "get what we deserve". Then the shoe will be on the other foot, won't it.
     
  7. Hardwood floor guy

    Hardwood floor guy Beaverton Active Member

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    I think if california thinks guns are soooo evil that they need to ban them then they should be too evil to put in movies for our kids too right?
    So lets see how many hollywood movies sell tickets without those evil guns in them,lets see if that hurts their economy at all.
    Afterall it's hollywood that makes the ar platform look so evil,arms and legs flying when you get shot with an ar15?....please!
    Hollywood always loves too see the good guy shoot people up and walk away scott free so why such an negative outlook on guns?
    hypocrite democratic communist state anyhow.
     
  8. Goat Herder

    Goat Herder Kent, WA Member

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    Hardwood floor guy, you are too logical to be a democrat. therefore, you will never understand how they think and why they do what they do.
     
  9. MikeE

    MikeE Portland Well-Known Member

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    Sent to Sen Yee's office:

    Dear Senator Yee,

    As a registered Democrat in the State of Oregon, you may well discount my input regarding SB249. Before you do, please give me a moment of your time. As a life-long Democratic activist who has worked for years in our State's rural areas, I know from experience that the gun issue can be relied upon to split away working class voters who should be on our side. I have seen right wing political forces use the gun control issue to get people to vote for politicians whose prime objectives are to gut the public services and cut taxes for the wealthy.

    Surely, no state has experienced this bait and switch tactic more severely than the State of California. I urge you to re-think SB249 before you open a wedge up that will impact issues we all care about as progressives.

    Banning magazine-fed rifles will not have any impact on the horrific mass killings now rolling through the nation. The same amount of damage could be inflicted by other means. We have a crying need to improved mental health care, this much must be obvious. A response to the mass shootings that makes a call for radical expansion of mental health coverage would garner support from all quarters, including many NRA supporters. A drive for gun control will unify a bloc of voters against all the other good work the Democratic Party can do.

    Regards,
     
  10. Bacchus

    Bacchus The Republic Active Member

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    Believe it or not, even on gun enthusiast sites there are those who will claim there is no difference between the parties.
     
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    mjbskwim Salmon,Idaho Well-Known Member

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    I have always thought that way about Mass,jersy,NY and CA. But the reality is,our local politicians will use this type stuff to further their agendas
    "See,look what they did over there. Maybe we should ban all those guns too." Then site so stupid reasoning from that Lee dude
    Yee,my bad
    I mean if my kid leaves the state,then CA can fall into the ocean,as far as I'm concerned.
     
  12. Morrilp

    Morrilp Seattle New Member

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    They say this bill will be the blueprint for the rest of the country. Shall we stand buy and let them chip away slowly? This bill much like what happened in Australia will not compensate owners for their property. In CA they will be pulling that gun from your hand. ..cold, dead or living.
     
  13. Norm0931

    Norm0931 Hillsboro, OR Sgt. Sheep Silver Vendor 2016 Volunteer

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    This is one issue I've never figured out why the Republican party doesn't make their party theme song. The Democrats have had complete control in California for so long and look how bubblegumed up that state is. If it weren't for Hollywood, that state would be even more of a bubblegum hole. California is the Democratic dream for the country.

    I'm writing Ron Paul on the Oregon ballot if he isn't printed.
     
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    Morrilp Seattle New Member

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    Morrilp Seattle New Member

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    Well if you believe this latest news article Gov Rickety Perry of Texas is all for individual states rights to ban guns how they see fit. Texas may fall before WA and OR.

    Rick Perry Breaks With The NRA, Suggests States Should Be Allowed To Ban Guns | ThinkProgress
     
  16. darkminstrel

    darkminstrel PDX Well-Known Member

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    No, no, no! Haven't you seen that what's birthed in New York and California filters its way to the rest of the country, in time? That small representative seed shouldn't be allowed to take roots in my opinion.
     
  17. BSG 75

    BSG 75 Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Australian gun owners were compensated. The Australian government spent A$304 million buying guns to be destroyed. http://www.anao.gov.au/uploads/documents/1997-98_Audit_Report_25.pdf

    Oh, and for the easily confused, just because I corrected an incorrect statement of fact doesn't mean I support the Australian program. Just want to make that clear to those easily confused folks who think that clearing up misinformation about a policy means I "support and endorse" that policy.
     
  18. BSG 75

    BSG 75 Oregon Well-Known Member

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    He is just a strong supporter of "states' rights" (even though state governments don't have "rights", only people do). He doesn't want Texas to ban anything. He is trying to say don't pass Federal legislation like the 1994 "assault weapon" ban.
     
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    davemata Spokane, WA Well-Known Member

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    Bolded because it's true. I'm from CA, living in MA now, and getting the hell out of here Thursday.

    So I'm loathe to rewrite what I wrote in another thread. So I'm reserving this spot to copy it in. Clif's notes though, this will NEVER happen.

    Additional note on Yee. This guy is on my bubblegum list. When he's not trying to screw with gun laws he actively tries to get video games banned or regulated and doesn't give a flip about freedom of expression.


    ETA - From the other thread...
     
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  20. davemata

    davemata Spokane, WA Well-Known Member

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    I'll also add this in a different post as it is a seperate thought. Since the text focuses on detachable magazine... it would outlaw my 10/22 with a detachable mag controlled by a button. Too far reaching. WILL NOT PASS. (In my Gandalf voice)