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Cache techniques

Discussion in 'General Firearm Discussion' started by 556, Aug 18, 2013.

  1. 556

    556 Beaverton,OR Active Member

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    I was watching some youtube videos on people digging up a cache after 1 year or two and some of the stuff was dry and looked like it did when they buried it while others were soaked, oxidized and basically ruined.

    What I am wondering is one of them had silver in it and someone said plastic bags will "ruin" silver, why so?
    Also I have noticed that some .45acp ammo I put in plastic bags looked oxidized after a while even though they were not buried and just ziplock bags.

    All of them seal"a"mealed the bags by the way but some lost the vaccum being underground for a while.
     
  2. ogre

    ogre Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

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    Many plastic bags contain PVC (polyvinyl chloride.) This reacts with silver (copper, is even worse which explains your brass cased ammo problems) causing ugly green tarnish. Once started it is a pain to get rid of it as it will continue to tarnish even when removed from the bag.

    I have had success removing the tarnish and stopping further PVC deterioration by washing the silver in acetone.
     
  3. 556

    556 Beaverton,OR Active Member

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    I would be afraid to bury a gun for fear that it would be all rusty when I dug it up even after oiling, but I would like to try as an experiment to bury some cheap ammo and such.
    Ya never know if it would be the only gun you had left though after a swift sweep by our militarized government.
     
  4. ogre

    ogre Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

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    Sigh.........if it is time to bury your guns then it is time to dig them up.
     
  5. 556

    556 Beaverton,OR Active Member

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    yeah I know but they can be crafty so we need to be crafty too so we have something to fight with.
     
  6. Liberty97045

    Liberty97045 Oregon City Well-Known Member

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    What would you think about dipping a box of live ammo in hot wax? Maybe wrap with cheesecloth first for strength.
     
  7. Liberty97045

    Liberty97045 Oregon City Well-Known Member

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    I'm stealing that
     
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  8. cookie

    cookie THE SOCIALIST STATE OF KALI - FORNIA Well-Known Member

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    Yep ,so many guns yet so few politicians. The problem is one person is unable to stand up to many . Yet most gun owners are not willing to do the most basic thing which would be to donate to pro gun organizations. Organizing for effectiveness is a different problem.
     
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  9. 556

    556 Beaverton,OR Active Member

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    I would bet the early Americans would have kicked the tail of these communists long ago, Like first time they mentioned taking someones guns away?
     
  10. ogre

    ogre Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

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    I'm not a big fan of that idea. If you feel the need for extra security or insurance I would tightly wrap the ammo in a mylar bag, along with some desiccant. That would be much easier and certainly less messy.
     
  11. Certaindeaf

    Certaindeaf SE Portland Well-Known Member

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    Do you have a bunghole? I'd keester it if I was you.
     
  12. 556

    556 Beaverton,OR Active Member

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    Do you like putting things up your keester? You must be a Portland Liberal?
     
  13. oknow

    oknow amboy wa. Well-Known Member

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    ^^^^^^^^^^lol^^^^^^^^^
     
  14. never4get

    never4get federal way Member

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    Lowes sells 4" pvc pipe, 2ft long, 3.00, end cap, 2.00, flush out cap, 4-5.00. Little sealer, and you got the perfect water tight storage unit cheap! I've made them out of 8" pipe, that gets spendy, but what can be put into them, to me out weighs the cost. Just sayin..........
     
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  15. Brutus57

    Brutus57 Skagit County Well-Known Member

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    My brother in law, RIP, cached I know. Up to and including firearms at his BO location starting 20 years ago. I believe he started with TOW or LAW style shipping tubes, but not positive. I do know he had a heckuva a collection as he was a 3rd Class FFL and at one time owned more than ten "death's head Lugers". When he passed away I am pretty sure his sons exhumed them but I have not asked them the condition of the guns. I will next time I talk to one. Most the fun toys they have fired on Red Jacket that aren't customs he had. Solothurn, check, Ma Deuce, check, Jerry 42, check Damn I miss him.

    Brutus Out
     
  16. Brutus57

    Brutus57 Skagit County Well-Known Member

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    Great advice, except I am not sure my landlord would like me digging up his near golfing green like lawn to cache.
    Brutus Out
     
  17. Boats

    Boats Flicking A Switch To Open My Third Eye Well-Known Member

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  18. notchman

    notchman Kitsap Peninsula, WA Member

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    You could always use a Mono Vault. They have a threaded inner cap with an o-ring seal and a slip on cap to direct water away from the inner cap (as long as you put them in the ground vertically).