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Good deal... another question, whats the best brand of bulk ammo to buy? I've gotten alot of different brands for my AK only because you can basically rub an AK round in crap and it will still fire. I want a descent round for my AR (.223) thats not gonna break the bank and fire relativly clean.
I used to have it shipped to my home.
Now I have all my bulk munitions shipped to the shop where I work.
I have found when you let the sender know that it is going to where you work, it gets there while you are there, it is cheaper for some venders to ship to an business, and you don't have to wonder if it was dropped off at your home and someone made off with it.
I'm a restaurant manager, if i had a ton of bulk ammo delivered there I'm sure someone might get the wrong idea. Sure it's not the post office but still... :gun09:
Is your AR chambered in .223 or 5.56 NATO? It can make a difference. Other AR owners will know more about this but from what I've heard you can shoot either in a 5.56 NATO chambered rifle but should only use .223 in a .223 chamber and a lot of ammo sellers put them both in the same catagory. I have a 7.62 NATO chambered M1 Garand and found that .308 and 7.62 NATO were both listed in the same catagories on most websites. Just a thought. Once you decide what type you want here's some to choose from.
Shooting 5.56 NATO in a .223 is considered a dangerous combination due to the NATO round extending farther into the .223 chamber. If the boxes are actual Mil-Surp and marked as NATO, this can be an issue. Ammunition that is marked .223, without the NATO markings on the packaging is not a problem.
Good list of prices. It does however reinforce my continued reloading of .223 ammo. Currently I can load a round for $0.16 which allows me to shoot almost two rounds for the price of one and re-use the case for many more times.
The 5.56 NATO chamber has a longer leade. The only issue in shooting .223 in a 5.56 chamber is that the bullet will travel farther before engaging the rifling. This can effect accuracy in many cases, especially if shooting at longer distances.The SAAMI chart states that .223 chambered rifles should not shoot 5.56 NATO but makes no mention of what "not " to use in 5.56 NATO so you could only assume they don't want the liability or both calibers are ok in 5.56 NATO chamber.
Not really so. The reason Military Loads have higher indicated pressures in not that they are loaded hotter, it's a matter of what the Military Standard is for measuring pressure. The Mil Spec calls for the pressure reading to be taken at a different point in the barrel thus different pressure reading and standard than SAAMI. In a Garand M-1, the issue is bending the operating rod from too high pressures. Since the 30-06 springfield round was never a NATO standard there will be no official NATO headstamp on the '06 case. For the M-1A, a garand design, the gas piston and operating rod system are different and ammo is less an issue than it was for the old M-1. The 7.62/.308 round was essentially developed both as a military round and a civilian round at the same time. Same round, different headstamps.Military or NATO cartidges are also loaded to different firing pressures besides the lead/headspacing. In other words they're supposed to be dangerous for how they fit and how they go bang. I had to learn about these differences to make sure I was using the correct cartridge in my Garand. From what I've read you might damage the op rod at a minimum or have a major failure. Depends on who you ask. The ammo vendors lump all of these types of cartridges together and sell them as the same thing so you really have to know what you're buying. Just to be safe I only buy ammo for my Garand that has a NATO headstamp even if it's sold as 7.62x51 just to be safe.
Poonaner,
I would not rely on what the lower is stamped with (.223/556 NATO). I would only go by what the barrel is stamped with. The barrel will be stamped with the specific round type. Such as 5.56 NATO or .223.
Right now they are offering, as an example, new .223/5.56mm ammo for $329/1,000 which compares to $6.58 per box of 20. All delivered to your door. No gas money to go chase a good deal locally and in the case of WA State, NO SALES TAX!!!!!!
Not to nit pick, but for legality sake, I would like to point out that there still is a sales tax for WA even when ordering from elsewhere. Not that I think its right for the state to have a law stating so, but just pointing out that its there.