Bushmaster surprise!!!

Caveman Jim · Feb 5, 2013

This an e-mail I sent to the person in Texas whom I bought the B.M. XM15 ES2 & the Adams Arms piston kit from the internet:

******** Ijust got back from my gunsmith, he said the Adams Arms piston kit that you sold me will not work on the Bushmaster XM15 ES2 because the flash hider is welded on the 14.5" 14.5" barrel!!! Did you have any knowledge of this before you sold it to me? Kinda bummed out, I know I can sell the kit, but bummed none the less. Jim Sr.

I know that being a buyer, I should have checked it B-4 buying but he included it with the rifle (saying it was for this exact rifle, I should have had him install it) I'm not a gunsmith or a black rifle specialist.
I hope it will fit on the Olympic Arms AR that is due to arrive next week.

greedy bastards · Feb 5, 2013

Can you say barrel swap.

Stomper · Feb 5, 2013

You do know that technically NOTHING is "permanent", right?

samuelm16 · Feb 5, 2013

Yeah buy a new barrel and sell me yours

Caveman Jim · Feb 5, 2013

I know that heat & a wrench in my hands = massive burns & trauma!!!!
Yeah a new barrel is an option but I'll have to check it out further.

Flopsweat · Feb 6, 2013

Caveman Jim said:
I know that heat & a wrench in my hands = massive burns & trauma!!!!
Yeah a new barrel is an option but I'll have to check it out further.

Aw c'mon - it's so easy a Caveman could do it. :banana:

Norm0931 · Feb 6, 2013

If the FH were not welded or at the very least pinned it would be an NFA item. So...are you upset that he sold you a legal upper receiver vs committing a felony? How did you expect him to send it? It's not the seller's responsibility to know gun laws for you.

Caveman Jim · Feb 6, 2013

Norm0931 said:
If the FH were not welded or at the very least pinned it would be an NFA item. So...are you upset that he sold you a legal upper receiver vs committing a felony? How did you expect him to send it? It's not the seller's responsibility to know gun laws for you.

Not at all, I'm upset that he sold me something that was not going to work on the rifle he sold me. It's not about the gun laws man, it's about sellers taking advantage of a customers, geese man, I hope you don't think everyone else but you is a dolt!!!

Nwcid · Feb 6, 2013

Did YOU know the gun had a 14.5" barrel?

ZigZagZeke · Feb 6, 2013

From the kit web page:

Also, at present there is only a one-piece clamping gas block, so if the barrel that the kit will be used on is going to require a permanent muzzle device to meet NFA regs, this will have to be planned and accounted for prior to installation beginning.

Can the FH be removed long enough to get the gas block on the barrel?

davemata · Feb 6, 2013

So, could someone help me out here?

Why couldn't the smith take off the flash hider, do the kit install, and then put the flash hider back on. It's only welded.

Norm0931 · Feb 6, 2013

Caveman Jim said:
Not at all, I'm upset that he sold me something that was not going to work on the rifle he sold me. It's not about the gun laws man, it's about sellers taking advantage of a customers, geese man, I hope you don't think everyone else but you is a dolt!!!

I think you not realizing you couldn't buy a rifle with a 14.5" barrel without a permanent muzzle attachment is being recklessly uniformed. I really don't think the seller did anything wrong. You ordered the products. If it was clear the rifle had a 14.5" barrel then you are at fault. It's not his job to nanny you. Perhaps you should speak to Obama about sponsoring legislation to nanny purchases too.

Caveman Jim · Feb 6, 2013

Recieved a reply from the seller: That I was not aware of as I bought the two together. If you want to send me the kit back I will send you $100 since that was the selling agreement. If you want to sell it, you can probably get more as those go between $150-200. Sorry about the mistake. I guess I didn't research it enough.

To all that have replied to this:

It was not an attempt at gaining sympathy from anyone.
I knew that I didn't gather enough information on the rifle, said piston kit and the instillation process.
I intended to let others know to be up on the specs & options of firearms they are purchasing off the internet. Not everyone is a gunsmith or a wantabe!!!
I did not want to get brow beat by those who are the all knowing & everyone else is just a dolt. Pretty shallow in my view.
FYI, you should use PM's to make your snotty points & remarks.

Blaylocke · Feb 6, 2013

Caveman Jim said:
Recieved a reply from the seller: That I was not aware of as I bought the two together. If you want to send me the kit back I will send you $100 since that was the selling agreement. If you want to sell it, you can probably get more as those go between $150-200. Sorry about the mistake. I guess I didn't research it enough.

To all that have replied to this:

It was not an attempt at gaining sympathy from anyone.
I knew that I didn't gather enough information on the rifle, said piston kit and the instillation process.
I intended to let others know to be up on the specs & options of firearms they are purchasing off the internet. Not everyone is a gunsmith or a wantabe!!!
I did not want to get brow beat by those who are the all knowing & everyone else is just a dolt. Pretty shallow in my view.
FYI, you should use PM's to make your snotty points & remarks.

Jim, you should know not to ask firearms related questions on a firearm site. It makes you look stupid. :s0114:

Caveman Jim · Feb 6, 2013

titsonritze, correct, he is a newby builder trying to make big in this crazy game. Will have to study up on some stuff so next time I'll be able to cry BS...

Blaylocke, I sure found out quickly what "not to do" on a firearm site.