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Burglars cut through a gun safe

Discussion in 'General Firearm Discussion' started by pokerace, May 22, 2013.

  1. pokerace

    pokerace Newberg Well-Known Member

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    MEDFORD, Ore. (AP) — Burglars got away with cash and property worth $171,000 in a break-in at a Rogue River house.

    The Jackson County sheriff’s office says they broke in sometime between mid-April and early May while the homeowners were out of town. Burglars cut through a gun safe and made off with 14 guns, two Rolex watches, gold, platinum and silver coins and ingots, plus some cash.

    Sheriff’s spokeswoman Andrea Carson told the Mail Tribune it’s one of the highest loss burglaries the department has seen.

    Rogue River house burglars get away with $171K | KOIN.com
     
  2. Blitzkrieg

    Blitzkrieg WA Well-Known Member

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    Too bad it did not contain gunpowder
     
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  3. nastybynature

    nastybynature ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ Active Member

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    Wish they would have named the safe model/brand. I am in the process of researching safes and am guessing it was one of the composite door, thin wall metal ones......
     
  4. Blitzkrieg

    Blitzkrieg WA Well-Known Member

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    With a torch or enough time with a chop saw, no personal safe is well, safe. If you're gone for significant time frames you need a good alarm system
     
  5. misplacedtexan

    misplacedtexan Beaverton, OR Active Member

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    Exactly, all a safe of any sort will do is buy time. Looks like the homeowners were out for a month, with that kind of time anyone could defeat any safe. Hell you could order the necessary tools, wait on delivery, and still have time.

    Granted a good safe is worth it's money, but you need an alarm too.
     
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  6. ArgentineSteel

    ArgentineSteel Vancouver, WA Active Member

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    Preferably four footed with teeth.
     
  7. chrisk86

    chrisk86 Spokane Member

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    Correct me if I'm wrong but with that kind of money and materials in there would it not be a better idea to buy a second safe and split some of that up just in case a situation like this happens and you aren't left completely empty handed???
     
  8. oneharmonic

    oneharmonic Portland, OR Well-Known Member

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  9. Blitzkrieg

    Blitzkrieg WA Well-Known Member

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    I am big on canines for some uses but they are easy to shoot, or if not properly trained, poisoned. Little good a dog does left a month alone, and he can't call for assistance like an alarm can
     
  10. Blitzkrieg

    Blitzkrieg WA Well-Known Member

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    Given 30 days absence that would not help at all
     
  11. jbett98

    jbett98 NW Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    With that amount of valuables, I would have a hidden safe that was concealed by experts and a cheaper safe for day to day items that wouldn't be missed and would satisfy the thieves.
     
  12. WhyteCheddar

    WhyteCheddar East of Moscow by the Willamette Well-Known Member

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    Might be worth putting it in a safety deposit box while you are gone for extended periods.
     
  13. Scout67

    Scout67 Milwaukie Member

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    If I had that kind of wealth at my house and was going to be gone for a month I would think it would be safer in a crawlspace or attic than any kind of home safe.
     
  14. Dinged

    Dinged Portland, OR Active Member

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    I think having a friend or family member house sit would be my plan. That does suck though, $170k in losses is quite a bit. I wonder if the home owners had contacted the local police/sheriff's office and had them conduct a vacant house check. If I were to be gone for an extended period of time I'd have local LE or a private security company stop by daily just to keep an eye out. Sure it may not have prevented this but it's one of those "peace of mind" type things (for me at least).
     
  15. Colt Carbine

    Colt Carbine Oregon Gears-N-Guns

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    I don't have anywhere near that in valuables and I feel the need to hide my safe...

    along with my tools that could provide access into my safe.
     
  16. Mark W.

    Mark W. Silverton, OR Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    You can cut your way into a well constructed gun safe with a rechargeable Dremel tool and a cut off disc. I have cut through 1/4" thick steel with one. Granted it would take a bunch of disc's and a wad of time. But its not had to cut steel.

    With a 7.5" Skillsaw and a thin Green cut off disc you could open a 12" square hole in a safe with .120" thick walls in less then 1/2 hour. Make a lot of noise but when no one is home to hear so what.

    The thickness of the door the diameter or number of locking pins is of no concern what you want is a thick sided safe that's set into a pocket made of steel reinforced concrete complete with copper tubes running through the concrete with free floating rebar in side. Copper disapates heat and is very hard to torch through. the free floating rebar will just spin if you try to cut it with a hacksaw.


    You can open a hole in a 1/2" thick safe with nothing more then a couple quality 1/4" drill bits and a good plug in the wall 3/8" VSR drill motor
    OOOOOOOOOO
    O...................O
    O...................O
    O...................O
    OOOOOOOOOO

    And wack it with a big hammer the plug will punch right out.

    Get a
     
  17. OLDNEWBIE

    OLDNEWBIE State of Flux Well-Known Member

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    A good safe is one nobody knows about, even family. Kids like to talk/brag about things. Any safe should be well hidden and secret IMHO. The "sacrificial safe" is also a great idea to keep bad guys off the scent. I'd keep this one less hidden of course but still a bit secret so as not to invite trouble.
     
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    2506 Seattle Well-Known Member

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    Also a good idea to read up on your homeowner's or renter's insurance policy or talk to your agent about the right amount of coverage, especially for firearms.
     
  19. Skang

    Skang WA Well-Known Member

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    I wonder if home owner posted "on vacation" at his facebook.

    sound like someone knew his was away from the home.
     
  20. Colt Carbine

    Colt Carbine Oregon Gears-N-Guns

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    or posting about their vacation and how much fun they were having....

    More than likely, it is was somebody they knew or one who might have been inside the home at one point.
     
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