Be sure and "zoom" in on that picture so you can see the mass of small stuff that people could have EASILY spent 5 minutes picking up to recycle at home. And to the right of that pic, just off the edge, the thousands of shotgun hulls down in the boulders. God Damn I hate some people.
Most gun owners DO care. You only hear about the ones that dontSometimes I kind of just wish they would close down the woods, just so I can sit back and laugh.
Sorry, sometimes I get a little jaded. I used to really try and make change, only to realize that gun owners don’t want to change.
I’d beg to differ.Most gun owners DO care. You only hear about the ones that dont
I make sure I have a garbage bag in the trunk with me every time I go to an open range. Feels good to leave it cleaner than when you arrivedIt’s just not that much effort to clean up after yourself and an additional bag for good measure. That’s how it’s kept cleaned up and keep a good reputation for shooters. Haul out more than you haul in...
Reno has a point that's true, its what Ive observed on public lands. I suspect the majority of shooters are new or irregular, I just haven't figured out if the majority shooters are just ignorant to clean shooting techniques or outright have no morals and don't even care about how their actions affect others.I’d beg to differ.
Most gun enthusiasts care. (Honestly something like 10% of gun owners)
Yeah, darn it... The newbee's are the majority out there, (from what I see). I stop and visit with them every time I go out and find many are so 'UNAWARE' of the rules, or 'Common Sense', that they don't have a clue as to what's legal or not. Many, that I talk to, seem to want to do it right and are really surprised to hear there are actually rules they are supposed to follow. They just thought public land is free so it's a free-for-all (anything goes) kind of thing. Others, I've talked to, put on a good front that says "hey yeah, I dig it, man. Hell yeah, save our places to shoot and I always clean up and more!" and then, once you leave, they don't give a rip and don't bother to clean a thing.Reno has a point that's true, its what Ive observed on public lands. I suspect the majority of shooters are new or irregular, I just haven't figured out if the majority shooters are just ignorant to clean shooting techniques or outright have no morals and don't even care about how their actions affect others.
Im not certain how long he 10% can keep up with the trend of new gun ownership who only have public lands as an option.
I dont mean to have a pessimistic outlook, its just that I'm out at Salmonberry a few times a year regularly and see the garbage they leave myself, including my secrete spots. ....but I cant begin to tell you how much your TNL work has helped. The Wolf Creek lanes have seriously helped the situation in this area of the Tillamook forest. I dont get my schedule to align with the TNL cleanup days, but take an extra bag home when I do shoot there. I'm just at a loss at what more can be done as more population grows and moves here to take advantage of the outdoor recreation Oregon has enjoyed exclusively, but your work has been invaluable and hasnt gone unnoticed.So, our challenge is greater now than ever before.
Go for it, Shooter! Just pick a date and give a call out for folks to help. You'll be surprised as the quality of help you'll get from NWFA members! It only takes 3-5 people to make a big difference in short order! If you get real picky, it may take a long time, so, best just go for the big/ugly stuff and call it good for now.Why don't we organize a cleanup then? It's not hard to do. Many of us have trucks and tools and the willingness!
10-15 people approximately 2 hours is my educated guess. Would be great if you captain a clean up event, count me in. Some of us other than @Cogs need to take the lead on these from time to time.Thanks for the info. Much appreciated. The last cleanup I organized approximately 25 people showed up and we made a huge improvement. We each left with a few large trash bags. I'm going to go out to Brown's Camp to shoot and scout it out to get an idea of how much garbage there is. I'll keep everyone posted