Brown bear attack while elk hunting in Wyoming - 31 shots to stop it

[No_Regerts]

Here's all you need. BFR .45-70...

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Looks like the Joker gun!

 

[smoothbore]

The timing of this made me laugh

They were undergunned from the get go. I love my 10mm, but you would be foolish to think it adequate for a grizzly and the .45acp is laughable as a bear gun.

https://sportingclassicsdaily.com/d...m revolvers were used to defend against bears.

 

[Member 66129]

...and? 44 magnum beats 10mm in virtually every category other than capacity.

 

[osprey]

Many different opinions not all based on same scenario makes for a convoluted thread. My choices of firearms or other measures may change depending on the situation. Am I hunting or just hiking, am I actually hunting or just scouting, what am I hunting for, is it black bear country or grizz also, is it gentle terrain or is it butt kicking steep, is it brushy and thick or more open, am I responsible for more than just myself, are others in the party experienced and or capable ? Too many variables for a one size fits all solution.

 

[Koda]

Many different opinions not all based on same scenario makes for a convoluted thread. My choices of firearms or other measures may change depending on the situation. Am I hunting or just hiking, am I actually hunting or just scouting, what am I hunting for, is it black bear country or grizz also, is it gentle terrain or is it butt kicking steep, is it brushy and thick or more open, am I responsible for more than just myself, are others in the party experienced and or capable ? Too many variables for a one size fits all solution.

And this is why people continue to discuss fighting bears with pistols, they are pretty convenient packages that fit almost all scenarios. Not that anyone actually wants to fight a bear with a pistol but a rifle is certainly not convenient on a hiking trip.

 

[solv3nt]

 

[The Heretic]

And this is why people continue to discuss fighting bears with pistols, they are pretty convenient packages that fit almost all scenarios. Not that anyone actually wants to fight a bear with a pistol but a rifle is certainly not convenient on a hiking trip.

That said, when I was hiking the Kenai (with a DW .44 mag and Barnes 300 gr. JSPs loaded hot), I ran into two park rangers on the trail - a man & woman. They were looking for an overdue hiker. The guy had a bolt action rifle with a large hole in the end of the barrel. I am sure he wasn't hunting for game, but rather was prepared for the worst case scenario.

For me, a handgun is what you carry when a rifle is not convenient - as you say.

 

[ZigZagZeke]

Looks like the Joker gun!

 

[ZigZagZeke]

 

[Member 66129]

If that was ported like the 460 xvr, I'd buy that in a heart beat.

 

[The Heretic]

If that was ported like the 460 xvr, I'd buy that in a heart beat.

When it comes to 5" to 8" revolvers, I would rather have the .460 Mag

 

[Member 66129]

When it comes to 5" to 8" revolvers, I would rather have the .460 Mag

That's at the top of my "want" list, for sure. Especially love the option to shoot .454 casul and .45lc. You have to admit though, a .45-70 revolver/ lever gun combo would be pretty fun.

 

[The Heretic]

That's at the top of my "want" list, for sure. Especially love the option to shoot .454 casul and .45lc. You have to admit though, a .45-70 revolver/ lever gun combo would be pretty fun.

If you have the $$$$ then you can get a lever gun in .460 Mag

I would love one, but I already have a Marlin carbine in .45-70 and I sold/traded my 460V and got a 325TR instead. I feel my 329PD or my 327/TRR8 is adequate for black bears with the right ammo. No brown bears here.

 

[osprey]

When we start talking 4-5 pound revolvers I definitely choose a rifle.

 

[HighlandLofts]

You have to be stupid to set your rifles down and venture on looking for a dead elk or deer that was shot the day before in grizzly bear country.
Stupidity at its finest.

 

[762willdo]

...and? 44 magnum beats 10mm in virtually every category other than capacity.

I lived on the kenai penn. and remote western Alaska and they have a saying for the .44mag in brown bear country, you should always file the front sight off real smooth if you gonna carry one…..

 

[The Heretic]

I lived on the kenai penn. and remote western Alaska and they have a saying for the .44mag in brown bear country, you should always file the front sight off real smooth if you gonna carry one…..

Or:

1) Know how to use it properly; aim for the front shoulders to slow the bear down.

2) Use the right ammo

3) Practice

 

[Defense Minister]

The bear was stopped without injury to the hunters, so I disagree with those making the general statement that handguns are not adequate for close-range bear defense. The .45 ACP with hollow points? Yeah, that was a bad choice! But the 10mm and large bore, magnum-caliber revolvers are not. Sure, they should have brought their rifles, but you'll only get one round off on a charging bear from a bolt gun, and if it isn't effective, then what?

Carry your powerful, large-bore handgun for bear defense if that's your choice, but make sure it's loaded with proper rounds and that you're good with it!

 

[762willdo]

 

[762willdo]

The above video doesn't take into account a 250 ft./min. heart rate and your adrenal glands opened 120% both these things affect your shooting abilities