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BRILLIANTLY EXPLAINED

Discussion in 'Off Topic' started by fredball, Oct 8, 2012.

  1. fredball

    fredball Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

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    This rather brilliantly cuts thru all the political doublespeak we get.
    It puts it into a much better perspective.

    Lesson # 1:

    * U.S. Tax revenue: $2,170,000,000,000
    * Fed budget: $3,820,000,000,000
    * New debt: $ 1,650,000,000,000
    * National debt: $14,271,000,000,000
    * Recent budget cuts: $ 38,500,000,000

    Let's now remove 8 zeros and pretend it's a household budget:

    * Annual family income: $21,700
    * Money the family spent: $38,200
    * New debt on the credit card: $16,500
    * Outstanding balance on the credit card: $142,710
    * Total budget cuts so far: $3.85

    Got It ?????

    OK now Lesson # 2: Here's another way to look at the Debt Ceiling:

    Let's say, You come home from work and find there has been a sewer
    backup in your neighborhood....and your home has sewage all the way up
    to your ceilings.

    What do you think you should do ......

    Raise the ceilings, or pump out the crap?

    Your choice is coming Nov. 2012
     
  2. mosinguy

    mosinguy by the ocean Member

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    lmao.......... nice and simple...... now if the rest of the people figure this out we might have a bit more of a chance
     
  3. Burt Gummer

    Burt Gummer Portland Completely Out of Ammo

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  4. Phather

    Phather South SnoCo Active Member

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    Total budget cuts should be $385 and not $3.85, but this is still only 2% of the deficit.
     
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  5. Dunerunner

    Dunerunner You'll Never Know Well-Known Member

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    Correct you are Phather! Only eight places to the left. I wonder if I could have qualified for my new car loan with that kind of credit profile? :cool:
     
  6. AlphaCoyote

    AlphaCoyote Oh, I get around. New Member

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    OK but...
     
  7. AlphaCoyote

    AlphaCoyote Oh, I get around. New Member

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    Where would you cut? Not generally, but in dollars and cents? You've got the budget in front of you, and you need to cut BIG numbers. Really BIG numbers. Lay out your plan. Mrs. Fredball won't allow you to talk in generalities about the family budget. She wants to know your proposal. Let's hear it. How are you going to balance the family checkbook?
     
  8. Dunerunner

    Dunerunner You'll Never Know Well-Known Member

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    Cut taxes across the board. Business have money to invest, those that don't save it buy new washers, dryers, cars, clothes, bicycles, GUNS, etc. That creates jobs in sales and eventually in manufacturing. That increases the tax base and therefore, tax revenue. It also reduces the unemployment rolls, fewer on food stamps, fewer in poverty, therefore less spent in social welfare. Rebuild the Military and refund NASA. suddenly manufacturing demands from contractors who support those entities start hiring. I think you get the idea...

    Increasing taxes on the middle class, business and the wealthy is a tax revenue killer. The rich move their money into tax shelters, the businesses pass the tax onto those who buy their products and services, the poor and middle class take it in the pants. A tax increase on the rich and business is an indirect tax on consumers, destroys jobs and is counter productive. It always has been.
     
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  9. Sincere

    Sincere Between Cascadia and Jefferson Active Member

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    Take all the entitlements from the Blacks, Mexicans, ret.ards and old people.

    Damn entitlements.

    /sarcasm
     
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  10. Stomper

    Stomper Oceania Rising White Is The New Brown Silver Supporter

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    Big Bird and Obamaphone.... They gotta get off the public dole.
     
  11. mjbskwim

    mjbskwim Salmon,Idaho Well-Known Member

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    None of this will do any good if you don't cut spending.
    End all foreign aid NOW.We need to get our house in order first.
    Start embargoes on foreign good and take away tax incentive for manufactures that are building plants in other counties.
    Give the same manufacturers incentives and tax breaks to build plants in this country.
    If we don't have work for more people.all the tax BS means nothing.
    Cut taxes on a guy who isn't working enough to pay taxes?

    How about bring jobs back to the USA and build enough of a tax base that will justifying some change.

    You tax businesses and they just raise prices to pay them. What good have you done?

    We have to bring manufacturing back to the US.We do have all the workers here.Or at least if they are going to let illegals in,they will have a job.
    Then stop the welfare and such and make those people go to work in the factories or go hungry
     
  12. gehrheart

    gehrheart fidalgo island Well-Known Member

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    Adding to the list...
    Welfare
    Social security
    dept of education
    dept of homeland security
    dept of agriculture
    dept of energy
    dept of natural resources

    IRS!

    oh and here is a good one... THE FEDERAL RESERVE!

    all the entitlements.

    All foreign aid

    Im betting you see the trend here... I wont bother with listing line after line after line...

    Basically... If the United States Constitution doesn't give the fed the power to have said dept/handout or control then its GONE.


    But wait!! we have to help those in need!!.. That is a state problem which each and every individual SOVEREIGN state can tax and doll as the people of that state have voted and accepted to do.
    Except people no longer accept that we started as a republic, supposed to be a republic, and should still be a republic. That most of America has stoped taking personal responsibility for themselves And demand the free hand out.


    That would at least be a good start..
     
  13. fredball

    fredball Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

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    I tought BHO was going to go thru the budget line by line just another lie from the master lier
     
  14. gehrheart

    gehrheart fidalgo island Well-Known Member

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    will say anything for the vote!
     
  15. dusty

    dusty Mountlake Terrace Active Member

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    Voting for Chairman "O", is like a chicken voting for Col Sanders............................
     
  16. michaels

    michaels oregon Active Member

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    End all subsidies to rural counties and states that take in more tax dollars than they give out.

    End all farm subsidies.

    Tax on a local level, for local spending.

    Cut funding to the army, usn, usaf, usmc, fbi, cia, nsa, atf.

    Have extremely high import tarifs.
     
  17. Bigfoot

    Bigfoot Clack Co. OR Well-Known Member

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    Sorry for the bad news but it's far worse. The 14T doesn't cover unfunded liabilities, Medicare is 40T in the red, SS 20T, cities and states promise to pay public employees retirement that equals 100% of their last years income for life, etc. Total public debt is over 120 Trillion.
     
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  18. Burt Gummer

    Burt Gummer Portland Completely Out of Ammo

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    Absolutely correct. We have the worst financial statement by far of any nation on the planet. While people are so concerned about Greece and Spain, they don't realize that we are much worse financially. The ONLY thing that is propping up our fake economy is that the dollar is the global reserve currency. We are desperately trying to keep it that way (infiltrating Syria, soon bombing Iran, WWII, little things like that) but we won't be able to keep it that way indefinitely.

    Other countries like Russia and China are finally figuring out the Ponzi scam that we started in 1971. Money printing backed by nothing. They send us Saiga 12s and DVD players, we send them little worthless slips of paper.

    In the global economy we are the Caboose; we are the parasites; soon that knowledge will be global and the 5% that use 50% of the world's energy and resources will suffer a reality check and a drastic standard of living decline.
     
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  19. gehrheart

    gehrheart fidalgo island Well-Known Member

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    Absoulutly!
    And mathmaticaly, there is no way to pay it all off.. Its a dead end. If for some reason some how we were able to bay the 16t in the hole we have that still does not touch the surface of the true debt we have.
    And what do we have to pay it off with? Nothing but empty federal reserve IOU papper..

    I am on the band waggon to end the Fed, but reality is its to late.

     
  20. Burt Gummer

    Burt Gummer Portland Completely Out of Ammo

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    Yep. Even with the lower/fake debt numbers if everyone in the USA paid 100% of their income in taxes is would take over 22 years to pay off the debt.

    We are done. Hello fruit basket on head, malaria .... goodbye 70" flat screen tv.