True that. I was looking at buying the ap53 which is 8" and it would be about $2600 total to get it situated how I want. Just too much and 8" loses all the power of 5.56 making it more of a toy gun.
No experience with the hk16, but I had a BRN-180, and shot the Scar a few times. I kept the Bren 2. It is really smooth and soft shooting. the 16" has a heavy barrel, so it is a bit of a chonker. If I was to start over, I would probably SBR an 11".
The only 5.56 gun I have now is a PWS MK111. I find the 11" barrel a good compromise between velocity and portability. It's just a nice, useable size that even with a suppressor, doesn't get in the way.
Garandthumb did a good review of it. He is very critical when is comes to assault rifles which is good.
You are probably thinking of the Haga Defense adapters.
What suppressor did you order? That would be a tough call on which one to get- suppose it would depend upon what you currently have and what hole looking to fill. The Stribog is also totally underrated- I would take it over many PCCs. I ended up selling mine after I got an Sig MPX and B&TAPC9, but both of those are substantially higher cost, and it held its weight to them. Sold it to a close buddy of mine who was really wanting one but couldnt afford new, so cut him a really good deal. Of the two, the Bren 2 IMO is the better gun though by far- is truely is really good, and the ability to adjust the gas, and mod the gas for suppressor use is icing on the cake. Yeah there is a reason it is a primary gun now in Ukraine- has been very successful there. They are supposed to be coming out with a Bren 3, but it is quite a ways out, I wouldn't wait for it . . .
Yes - there you go, that is the company and what i have on mine. When i got mine a few months ago, they werent making them anymore, so had to get it secondhand from reddit, but worth it . . .
I would like to hear more on your thoughts as to why you think 5.56 is only accurate out of a 16" or longer barrel. I would strongly disagree and frequently run my 12.7" SBR'd LWRC out to 700M with ease and accuracy.
Went with ventum 7.62. Need flow through for g3k and ptr 51. Talked to ptr and they said vent 1 minimum for .308 was 14" so that was a no go. I'm also worried about those micro pores in the foam clogging up over time and reducing effectiveness. Since you have to use soak cleaning I could see it happening. And it's not something we would know about until people get 7000 rounds or more on their cans.
I have an 11" Bren 1 SBR and it is an awesome size but a heavy pig compared to the Bren 2. I also have a 16" Bren 2 as I didn't want to go the SBR route. The 16" just has an LPVO on it currently but final configuration will either be an HB Industries full length handguard to hide that long skinny barrel or the more likely route is a Griffin Armament dual lok PSR as the end of the over barrel suppressor would come to just in front of the factory handguard. Also planning to add the KNS adjustable gas block to the 16".
Nice!! I had not heard about a 14" length restriction on the Vent 1- that sucks!! I had planned on getting that one for my new Spear, which is the military length 13 inch barrel. Dambit. Agreed that the Ventum is probably the safer bet even if a little louder. My next can was going to be either the Vent 1 or Velos 762, so that will have to make me do some more figuring out of things . . . I did just watch Silencer Syndicate's video yesterday on night muzzle flash, but if you arent going to be shooting night combat, probably doesnt matter as much I suppose ;-)
Good info thx. From what I gather it sounds like the Bren 2 comes ready to accept a AR buffer tube in the back. That woudl be easy to put on stock or brace. Freedom munitions had these Tailhook brace and tube combos for $50 a while back so I have one that could be used on it. They are a bit thicker than ideal though.
Yea any of the Ti ones are going to have that I suppose. I assume it gets better over time though but I don't know.
If I were to change from the factory stock on my 16" it would probably be to go to a Haga Defense adapter with B&T MBT stock:Good info thx. From what I gather it sounds like the Bren 2 comes ready to accept a AR buffer tube in the back. That woudl be easy to put on stock or brace. Freedom munitions had these Tailhook brace and tube combos for $50 a while back so I have one that could be used on it. They are a bit thicker than ideal though.
They have a 8" with collapsible stock available but has a different upper (or maybe lower) to accommodate it. That woudl be ideal I think. Neolithic (sp?) also makes a 3d printed collapsible stock for the Bren 2 that uses standard upper/lower.
Here's the 8" with integrated stock. Don't think it's available in USA.
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Here's the Neolithic one ($329)
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I like that b&t one. I like factory stock one better though. Actually like the g36 one a lot despite not being adjustable. The collapsing one they have on 8" special version woudl be ideal for me but can't do it on reg bren 2If I were to change from the factory stock on my 16" it would probably be to go to a Haga Defense adapter with B&T MBT stock:
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B&T MBT STOCK FOR BREN 2
