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Bowe Bergdahl freed

Discussion in 'Off Topic' started by slimer13, May 31, 2014.

  1. slimer13

    slimer13 Deer Park Well-Known Member

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    slimer13 Deer Park Well-Known Member

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    Looks like they swapped five Gitmo detainees for him. Might bite us in the rear.
     
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  3. coastal steelheader

    coastal steelheader Aberdeen Well-Known Member

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    At least he is on his way home.
     
  4. gunfreak

    gunfreak Boise Well-Known Member

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    Welcome home brother. Oh yeah, it was SEALs that picked him up.
     
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    coastal steelheader Aberdeen Well-Known Member

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    Sstrand La Grande OR Well-Known Member

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    "This content is currently unavailable . . ."
    I don't know what the father said . . . BUT my guess is that Bergdahl was left "on ice" until negotiations for his release were useful to the emperor. Benevolence played no part, but AT HOME POLITICS did.
    Watch what else the REGIME does if the scandals don't subside!!

    Sheldon
     
  7. PiratePast40

    PiratePast40 Willamette Valley Well-Known Member

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    Lot of people got hurt looking for that guy when he "wandered off". Time for some answers.
     
  8. 3MTA3

    3MTA3 DMZ between Liberty and Tyranny Behind Enemy Lines Bronze Supporter

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    Great day for US foreign policy. The precedent has been set to exchange US hostages for terrorist prisoners. Expect to see Americans taken hostage now for this express purpose. US image among both our enemies and allies has been weakened yet again.

    I don't know anything about Bergdahl's particular situation as I first heard his name yesterday. I suspect the Facebook thing is a scam designed to get conservatives spun up and make us look stupid. That said, I'm happy for him and his family, but I fear the cost for his freedom will be captivity for others.
     
  9. coastal steelheader

    coastal steelheader Aberdeen Well-Known Member

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    Sorry about that
    Try this one

    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/201...m-working-for-release-of-all-gitmo-prisoners/


    Especially interesting is this first comment. I hope what this person says is bs, but I get a feeling it isn't

    maudieNmandeville5 hours ago
    topshot • 11 months ago

    I WAS THERE. I'm sick of all the lies. Here is the TRUTH, from someone on the ground. We were at OP Mest, Paktika Province, Afghanistan. It was a small outpost where B Co 1-501st INF (Airbone) ran operations out of, just an Infantry platoon and ANA counterparts there. The place was an Afghan graveyard. Bergdahl had been acting a little strange, telling people he wanted to "walk the earth" and kept a little journal talking about how he was meant for better things. No one thought anything about it. He was a little “out there”. Next morning he's gone. We search everywhere, and can't find him. He left his weapon, his kit, and other sensitive items. He only took some water, a compass and a knife. We find some afghan kids shortly after who saw an american walking north asking about where the taliban are. We get hits on our voice intercepter that Taliban has him, and we were close. We come to realize that the kid deserted his post, snuck out of camp and sought out Taliban… to join them. We were in a defensive position at OP Mest, where your focus is to keep people out. He knew where the blind spots were to slip out and that's what he did. It was supposed to be a 4-day mission but turned into several months of active searching. Everyone was spun up to find this guy. News outlets all over the country were putting out false information. IT WAS HARD TO SEE, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE KNEW THE TRUTH ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED AND WE LOST GOOD MEN TRYING TO FIND HIM. PFC MATTHEW MICHAEL MARTINEK, STAFF SGT. KURT ROBERT CURTISS, SSG CLAYTON BOWEN, PFC MORRIS WALKER, SSG MICHAEL MURPHREY, 2LT DARRYN ANDREWS, WERE ALL KIA FROM OUR UNIT WHO DIED LOOKING FOR BERGDAHL. MANY OTHERS FROM VARIOUS UNITS WERE WOUNDED OR KILLED WHILE ACTIVELY LOOKING FOR BERGDAHL. FIGHTING Increased. IEDs and enemy ambushes increased. The Taliban knew that we were looking for him in high numbers and our movements were predictable. Because of Bergdahl, more men were out in danger, and more attacks on friendly camps and positions were conducted while we were out looking for him. His actions impacted the region more than anyone wants to admit. There is also no way to know what he told the Taliban: Our movements, locations, tactics, weak points on vehicles and other things for the enemy to exploit are just a few possibilities. The Government knows full well that he deserted. It looks bad and is a good propaganda piece for the Taliban. They refuse to acknowledge it. Hell they even promoted him to Sergeant which makes me sick. I feel for his family who only want their son/brother back. They don’t know the truth, or refuse to acknowledge it as well. What he did affected his family and his whole town back home, who don’t know the truth. EITHER WAY WHAT MATTERS IS THAT GOOD MEN DIED BECAUSE OF HIM. He has been lying on all those Taliban videos about everything since his “capture”. If he ever returns, he should be tried under the UCMJ for being a deserter and judged for what he did. Bergdahl is not a hero, he is not a soldier or an Infantryman. He failed his brothers. Now, sons and daughters are growing up without their fathers who died for him and he will have to face that truth someday.

     
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  10. PiratePast40

    PiratePast40 Willamette Valley Well-Known Member

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    ^^^^We had this discussion in my living room a few years ago with a soldier who had been there. Thanks for your first hand account and thanks for serving.
     
  11. AMProducts

    AMProducts Maple Valley, WA Jerk, Ammo Manufacturer Silver Supporter

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    I wonder if obama is going to use him to backfill some of the vacancies in his cabinet at the moment... perhaps he could be an undersecretary to John Kerry... who served in vietnam and was wounded twice with slight cuts to the hands and deep gashes to his ego.
     
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    "WASHINGTON (AP) – Emails an American soldier reportedly sent to his parents before he was captured by the Taliban three years ago suggest he was disillusioned and considering deserting.
    Bowe Bergdahl told his parents he was “ashamed to even be American” and was disgusted with the U.S. mission in Afghanistan and with the Army, according to emails quoted in Rolling Stone magazine."


    Here is more supporting evidence. And this.

    "At the end of brief event, the soldier’s father, Bob Bergdahl, recited the most frequent phrase in the Koran — “Bismillah ir-Rahman ir-Rahim” —which means “In the name of Allah, most Gracious, most Compassionate.” "

    The enemy is amongst us...
     
  13. 3MTA3

    3MTA3 DMZ between Liberty and Tyranny Behind Enemy Lines Bronze Supporter

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    I want to puke...
     
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    Rocky C Portland Metro Active Member

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    That is the first step towards awakening ourselves to how bad things really are.
     
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    Riot Benton County, Washington Well-Known Member

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    It actually means "In the name of God, most gracious, most compationate."

    Allah in Aribic is Allah...

    Some of the tweets and that press conference....comparing Idaho to Afghanistan and screaming about Gitmo being closed. But I guess if my son was in the hands of the Taliban I wouldn't be able to keep things together either...that comment about Bergdahl being a traitor and soldiers dying trying to save him hits home though...if he did seek them out and blab intel I hope he hangs for it- I've been a staunch supporter of rescuing Bowe Bergdahl...petitioning the White House and spreading the word...if he really walked off- screw him.
     
  16. TapRackNGo

    TapRackNGo PNW Well-Known Member

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    His fathers "tweet" was captured before it was quickly deleted.
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  17. nwwoodsman

    nwwoodsman Vernonia Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter 2015 Volunteer

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    One deserter from a pro Taliban household in an illegal trade for 5 guys John McCain once called the 5 worst murderers in history. Something just aint quite right here.
     
  18. albin25

    albin25 Lewiston Idaho Well-Known Member

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    Public ignorance, time, and media complicity have changed him from a deserter to a returning "hero".

    He was "captured" when he defected/deserted and he has now been "exchanged" for the release of others like him. At least 6 good men died searching for this piece of dirt.

    It's a win-win for the Taliban.
     
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  19. Sstrand

    Sstrand La Grande OR Well-Known Member

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    AND the emperor . . .

    Sheldon
     
  20. jbett98

    jbett98 NW Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    When your up to your neck in the VA scandal, what better way to deflect all the criticism is to be the savior of a captured soldier.
    Oldest trick in a politician's playbook.
     
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