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Boston Marathon Bombing, What IF....

Discussion in 'Off Topic' started by Rotty, Apr 20, 2013.

  1. Rotty

    Rotty Skagit County Active Member

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    Is it me or does there seem to be a lot of National Tragedies occurring within a short amount of time that are getting the American people up in Arms. The timing of these events seem to coincidentally evoke an emotional response against the Constitution primarily 2A.

    What IF these attacks were planned and executed by our Govt to see how far the American people would allow the Govt to go.

    Sandy Hook Shooting for example. Instead of the American people being infuriated by the idea of loosing some or all of our Constitutional Rights they are in favor of giving them up. I have heard it said over the last couple of months that the Constitution is "Outdated" and no longer applies. What?!:huh:

    Boston Bombing for example. Instead of the American people being infuriated by the idea of the city being locked down and police/military swarming the streets in Martial Law fashion they are praising the authorities for saving them. Now they are talking about regulating gun powder. What?!:huh: Now the Boston Bomber is in custody and they are going to question him without reading him his "Miranda" rights by a "Special" Investigation team. What?!:huh:

    Fertilizer Plant in Texas blows up, not sure how that one can tie in just yet but it earns a mention because of the time line this tragedy occurred.

    What IF this was all planned out in away to get the American people to Cheer "Yay Mr. Obama Thank you for saving us". This gives Obama the justification to press forward and say 90% of Americans approve of his actions.

    What IF this was no accident at all and we find ourselves caught up in a skilled game of Chess and we are the Pawns. What IF in 4 years we see Mr Obama in office and stay there?

    Just a little something that makes a person go Hmmmmmm.:twocents:
     
  2. SonicBlue03

    SonicBlue03 Snohomish Well-Known Member

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    Alex Jones is the king of tinfoil hattery on false flag ops. Please don't go Full Alex on us.

    I'm more interested in seeing how they gloss over the FBI's f'up over first claiming they'd never looked at the bombing suspects and then later admitting they investigated the older brother at the request of a foreign government.
     
  3. Mark W.

    Mark W. Silverton, OR Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    What if your post is an attempt to get us all rialed up so that one of us does something crazy to hurt our cause. I think you are a mole for the evil new world order banker dudes. Thats what I think.

    Yea you were probably on the planning commitee since you seam to know so much about how this all took place.
     
  4. tacticalgunner

    tacticalgunner Wilsonville The Man, The Myth, The Legend Bronze Supporter

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    I believe the forum owner should make a conspricy therory topic line so most of us can bypass it and the ones who want to force drama and distrust in everything can bond. As for me, i don't think the government is all perfect and ethical, and I don't want to think that and keep my blinds closed and on alert 24/7 either. Live life, keep our liberties and just have fun, we forgot as a country how to do that.
     
  5. Father of four

    Father of four Portland, Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Are you speaking of SonicBlue03 or tacticalgunner ? :bluelaugh:
     
  6. Father of four

    Father of four Portland, Oregon Well-Known Member

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    If I was "made" to let them come into my house and search it or "made" to leave my home I would have been infuriated for sure. I would have been upset enough that I was being requested to stay inside my home. I do not know if I would have done that either.
     
  7. SheepDog223

    SheepDog223 Salem Well-Known Member

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    Makes you wonder. I don't believe it but I can't discount it either. Look at this link and scroll down to the red print. Explosions at Boston Marathon. 2 dead, 22 injured - MY350Z.COM Forums
     
  8. tacticalgunner

    tacticalgunner Wilsonville The Man, The Myth, The Legend Bronze Supporter

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    i am not rialed up, don't care. Most of these post are kinda getting out of hand. Its funny to me actually, its the entertainment of the posting on here. Pre-Decemeber we did not have these post on here and I kinda miss talking about guns, not the undercover ways of scaring people.
    My FAQ's:
    Do you like Obama? No
    Do you like gun laws? No, but most of these idiots voted for him, "lesser of the 2 evils" I remember hearing
    Who did you vote for? None of your business but it was not Obama.
    Do you believe gun laws will help? No, only way to stop gun violence is to elimanate guns all together, and I do not support that and that would be impossible. Same as all vehicle deaths would go away if we got rid of vehicles.
    Is background checks a bad thing? Read above, same answer.
    FTF gun need to be abolished? No
    Is the government trying to take away guns? Depends on how they vote, but no, the vote did not go through
    Why is the government buying all the ammo? they are not, we are, we hoard in fear. Even I do it. So I am as much of the problem
    DHS bad? I don't think so, but I am not doing anything wrong, nor have they ever asked me a single question, actually, beside a Coasty, and that was a boat.

    So there you have it, that is my answer to all the conspricy issues
     
  9. Father of four

    Father of four Portland, Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Fair enough, tacticalgunner.
     
  10. 4Freedom

    4Freedom Boise, Idaho Well-Known Member

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    As much as I want this "TERRORIST" to be skinned alive and let to hang in the sun and have his bones picked by vultures.. I must say, that our country made the stupid mistake of giving these people citizenship in the first place. It seems a good majority of Islamic terrorists are people we gave refuge, citizenship, student visas, etc. If we are going to give them citizenship and call them one of our citizens, then we are going to have to bear the brunt of the burden when they decide to use their freedom and citizenship to cause mischief and mayhem in our society, just like any other criminal.

    Now, how did our Founding Father's deal with traitors?? That's what I like to know. I am no expert on these type of legal issues, so I am actually reaching out and asking others for their own legal/historical knowledge of how our country dealt with people who became traitors and declared war on our nation. We cannot just have the government on a whim decide who no longer has Constitutional Rights and who doesn't. As much as I hate this terrorist piece of scum, I know that governments have proven themselves greater terrorists and have mass murdered by far more of their own people than the occasional terrorist or madman. My ancestors were mass exterminated by the Nazi government who also decided on a whim that people of this race and religion no longer have the same rights and other people. That is where this becomes quite a dangerous issue.

    This person is a citizen, so there is NO WAY we can circumvent our Constitution when we see fit. There must be due process and he must be tried as a Traitor using the laws and process laid out by our Constitution.

    Sadly, the Constitution is kind dispensable it seems in this day and age. The guy will probably also have all the bleeding hearts cry out about how bad the Americans treated Muslims overseas which led him to be like this. He will spend the rest of his life in an upscale prison, being served nice food and watching TV relaxing and being made a hero in prison. Just look at the Palestinian guy who massacred so many of our soldiers in Fort Hood, TX. All the sudden human rights groups and bleeding hearts came to his aid when they tried to force him to have his beard shaved, as they said it went against his religious/human rights. Personally, I don't think he deserves any special treatment considering he massacred all these innocent people in the name of his religion, but these days, terrorists/criminals have much more rights than the victims. Don't get me wrong, the guy was made a citizen and accepted in our military. Even he deserves to be tried under due process as a "Traitor", not as an "oppressed/mentally disturbed religious/ethnic minority".

    One thing I do know, is our Founding Fathers use to hang traitors.. I think he should be hung and he should die a slow, painful death looking at the families of the people he brutalized and murdered.
     
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  11. Rotty

    Rotty Skagit County Active Member

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    Ok tin foil hat back on reenforced with 3/8 inch steel plating. Not trying to rial anyone I just do not trust the current presidential leadership.
     
  12. BillM

    BillM Amity OR Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    OK---NOW you have said something that I think most of us can agree on!
     
  13. ZA_Survivalist

    ZA_Survivalist Oregon AK's all day.

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    Don't mind Sonic everyone, he's O's biggest fan.
    However, the facts are: People were forced to stay indoors (missing work and other various important matters), they established martial law then forced themselves upon the people going door to door searching through peoples private property without (I assume) a warrant. I guarantee you idle threats were made on the leos behalf to otherwise fool them into letting the leos violate their constitutional and civil rights. I'm sure property was damaged and that property loss will never be repaid by watertowns finest.

    Also, they would "evacuate" folks for their own "safety".. Hours go by and no comfort or compensation for time stolen by the three letter organizations and leos. Time is money andif you'll be wasting mine darn near 1-2 days you're darn well going to put me up or compensate me for my time and inconvenience. Id rather be told that'll it'll be unsafe in the area and make up my own mind on the matter.. If I and only I deem it unsafe I'll escort myself away from the hot zone, but again on my own accord. I (we) are not sheep nor cattle, to be herded and corralled.
     
  14. nwwoodsman

    nwwoodsman Vernonia Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter 2015 Volunteer

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    Better to stick with non-ferrous metal
     
  15. Mark W.

    Mark W. Silverton, OR Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    The OP
     
  16. SonicBlue03

    SonicBlue03 Snohomish Well-Known Member

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    It should say something to you that I'd rather read Blitzkreig's posts pre-election than anything you think you have to add at any point on the timeline.

    And yes, I'm bitterly disappointed in the administration's efforts since 14-Dec. I'm glad there's been a lot of burned up political capital on something that went nowhere to render them less effective. Would this have happened if a bunch of kids hadn't gotten killed? Don't think so, but I understand why he jumped on it. Just don't like it.
     
  17. Rotty

    Rotty Skagit County Active Member

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    Every one plays the "What IF" game to some degree. What if you're in the bank and it was robbed. What if you're at a traffic light and you get car jacked. What if the sky was falling.

    That does not mean that it is actually going to happen, most likely it never will. BUT what if the thought crossed your mind, what would I do if I was in/at a marathon and things started to blow up or what if I was sitting in class and someone started shooting and killing people. Pretty big stretch of the imagination UNTIL it actually happens.

    Has our Constitution been under attack, yes it has. Has Mr. Obama pushed his agenda with the Sandy Hook tragedy, yes he has. Even though Mr. Obama gun plans were defeated he is still going to push his executive orders to get what he wants. Is the Boston Marathon Bomber #2 going to be denied his Miranda rights, quite possibly, What's next: The interrogation of the Boston bombing suspect - Open Channel I never heard of such a thing until now.

    What if questions/statements are just that, for example What IF Mark W works for some diabolical planning committee and evil new world order banker dudes. Does that mean we should run and hide, hardly.
     
  18. Bigfoot

    Bigfoot Clack Co. OR Well-Known Member

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    If I'm going to spend my time dreaming up some "what if" scenario it's going to involve Kate Upton.