Washington Bob Fergusons Ban on Commonly Owned Semi-Autos

[Diamondback]

@whitney Don't give me too much credit, I just extracted from your file. And you still need to grab them by the balls and squeeze on all those Excel spreadsheets and other attachments, along with the Z-0113.2 draft bill that they held back and hoped you wouldn't notice... and yes, you should probably include Komrade Kreidler as a target of FOIA... a man as Communist to the core as the day is long.

 

[whitney]

@whitney Don't give me too much credit, I just extracted from your file. And you still need to grab them by the balls and squeeze on all those Excel spreadsheets and other attachments, along with the Z-0113.2 draft bill that they held back and hoped you wouldn't notice... and yes, you should probably include Komrade Kreidler as a target of FOIA... a man as Communist to the core as the day is long.

Thanks for your insight, I have actually been in contact with them regarding the files you mentioned. Right now I am in the hurry up and wait mode. I also sent a similar FOIA to the state insurance commissioner office.

~Whitney

 

[Caveman Jim]

Thank you Sir for your dedication.

 

[Diamondback]

I'm just an analyst wonk trying to be backup and help process your data harvest--THANK YOU, Whitney, for taking point and absorbing the costs on this.

Kreidler's been InsCom since at least when I was in elementary school--anyone allowed to old office long enough for those born after they take office to start having children at normal age while they're still in office has simply been allowed to stay Too Damn Long.

 

[Caveman Jim]

I'm just an analyst wonk trying to be backup and help process your data harvest--THANK YOU, Whitney, for taking point and absorbing the costs on this.

Kreidler's been InsCom since at least when I was in elementary school--anyone allowed to old office long enough for those born after they take office to start having children at normal age while they're still in office has simply been allowed to stay Too Damn Long.

That's who I was referring to but also for you too.

Exactly, term limits should be voted in and made MANDATORY,state & federal!!!!

 

[Diamondback]

LOL, thanks, CJ, but I too was addressing our friend from Poulsbo, on the "insight" comment.

 

[boogerhook]

We need federal preemption. No State laws shall be made more restrictive on gun rights than federal laws. We have the same between State and local municipalities.

 

[whitney]

I'm just an analyst wonk trying to be backup and help process your data harvest--THANK YOU, Whitney, for taking point and absorbing the costs on this.

Kreidler's been InsCom since at least when I was in elementary school--anyone allowed to old office long enough for those born after they take office to start having children at normal age while they're still in office has simply been allowed to stay Too Damn Long.

I once heard a quote that really stuck with me; "Citizenship is a verb".

This is what I can do every day; the cost is inconsequential as they can only charge for the cost of the media the records are provided on. It costs me $2.50 for each CD they send.

Anyone can request public records from any state agency. Most agencies have a separate department or designated official to handle the FOIA request.

I would like to see or hear more folks "stepping on the head of the snake". This is the system we have and I fully intend to use it to my best ability

Happy Monday !!

~Whitney

 

[Diamondback]

Here's the link to monitor this abomination in committee, it's SB 5050:
Washington State Legislature

 

[Wayne]

b)
A semiautomatic pistol, or a semiautomatic, centerfire, or

rimfire rifle with a fixed magazine, that has the capacity to accept

more than ten rounds of ammunition;

SB 5050
(c)
A semiautomatic pistol that has the capacity to accept a

detachable magazine and has one or more of the following:

(i)
Any feature capable of functioning as a protruding grip that

can be held by the nontrigger hand;

(ii)
A threaded barrel, capable of accepting a flash suppressor,
forward handgrip, or silencer;

Now including pistols in a new category, Assault Weapon.
forward handgrip, or silencer

 

[donaldc]

The legal language (I'm not a lawyer but do have 3 quarters of business law) always makes me think these people really have no idea how firearms work.

A semiautomatic pistol, or a semiautomatic, centerfire, or
rimfire rifle with a fixed magazine, that has the capacity to accept
more than ten rounds of ammunition

Does this mean my CZ P-07 Duty, which has the capacity to hold more than 10 rounds, is illegal even if I only have 10 round magazines for it?

A threaded barrel, capable of accepting a flash suppressor,
forward handgrip, or silencer;

What about a pinned and welded QD mount for a suppressor? What about a threaded barrel that can't accept a suppressor (i.e. a custom size/pitch threading) but can accept a QD mount for a suppressor?

These people just rehash the same language over and over again to appease their base. We must remain vigilant so these types of laws don't pass.

 

[Diamondback]

Given that damn near EVERY autopistol ever made has over-10 mags on the market... it's just a backdoor ban on everything autoloading.

 

[WA101]

Article I of the Washington State Constitution

SECTION 24 RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS.
The right of the individual citizen to bear arms in defense of himself, or
the state, shall not be impaired, but nothing in this section
shall be construed as authorizing individuals or corporations
to organize, maintain or employ an armed body of men.

To properly defend myself, or the state, I need a semi-auto rifle with a 10+ round detachable magazine, pistol grip, barrel shroud, and threaded barrel for a flash suppressor or other device.

To properly defend myself, or the state, I also need a semi-auto pistol with a 10+ round detachable magazine.

 

[Diamondback]

Article I of the Washington State Constitution

SECTION 24 RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS.
The right of the individual citizen to bear arms in defense of himself, or
the state, shall not be impaired, but nothing in this section
shall be construed as authorizing individuals or corporations
to organize, maintain or employ an armed body of men.

To properly defend myself, or the state, I need a semi-auto rifle with a 10+ round detachable magazine, pistol grip, barrel shroud, and threaded barrel for a flash suppressor or other device.

To properly defend myself, or the state, I also need a semi-auto pistol with a 10+ round detachable magazine.

But remember, we're dealing with people who think the "Militia" language in the 2A, written in 1789, refers to the National Guard which didn't exist until 1917 and if it HAD been around then would've been King George's crimson-coated proto-jackboots in need of mass Reapergramming.

 

[Diamondback]

So, folks, here's our playbook on Ferguson and his enablers:
12 Ways To Use Saul Alinsky's Rules For Radicals Against Liberals
Read it, learn it, live it, love it!

Why does Ferguson hate crime victims so much he wants to deny them effective means of resistance? WHY does he want to PROTECT violent criminals, thugs and terrorists?

Start asking these questions loudly and publicly, and looking for damaging things in his background--in WA the AG office is traditionally a steppingstone to Governor, and if we don't stop him here the Soviet Socialist Sh*thole of Sea-dom and Ta-morrah WILL push him upstairs into the Executive Mansion.

 

[GUNARCHER]

So, folks, here's our playbook on Ferguson and his enablers:
12 Ways To Use Saul Alinsky's Rules For Radicals Against Liberals
Read it, learn it, live it, love it!

Why does Ferguson hate crime victims so much he wants to deny them effective means of resistance? WHY does he want to PROTECT violent criminals, thugs and terrorists?

Start asking these questions loudly and publicly, and looking for damaging things in his background--in WA the AG office is traditionally a steppingstone to Governor, and if we don't stop him here the Soviet Socialist Sh*thole of Sea-dom and Ta-morrah WILL push him upstairs into the Executive Mansion.

My favorite Alinsky rule is the one stating to force them to abide by their own rules------in this case, the requirements in this bill applies to EVERYONE! police, body guards, armed security and all government agencies. Note that CA exempts the very politicians that voted for the restrictions on their citizens are EXEMPT from that very same law.
Not saying it would pass but it will sound unfair and elitist to the general public which could swing the vote if it becomes a ballot proposition.

 

[Caveman Jim]

The legal language (I'm not a lawyer but do have 3 quarters of business law) always makes me think these people really have no idea how firearms work.



Does this mean my CZ P-07 Duty, which has the capacity to hold more than 10 rounds, is illegal even if I only have 10 round magazines for it?



What about a pinned and welded QD mount for a suppressor? What about a threaded barrel that can't accept a suppressor (i.e. a custom size/pitch threading) but can accept a QD mount for a suppressor?

These people just rehash the same language over and over again to appease their base. We must remain vigilant so these types of laws don't pass.

And they need to be asked how many times has a suppressor has been used in a crime...
They are just copping the bubblegum anti-gun laws Kalifornication is puking out on their law-abiding gun owners!!!

 

[bbbass]

, according to the Washington Free Beacon.

Somebody say something about Free Bacon?!!!

 

[Caveman Jim]

RALLY 4 UR RIGHTS Olympia capital Jan 13th

Come on people, if they take away our rights it's because not enough good people really care.... tough love but the truth hurts.

 

[boogerhook]

The worst part in this legislation is that it does not address lethality, caliber size, or rate of fire, but mostly esthetics and ergonomics. It's designed for voters to read the headline/title "Assault Weapons Ban" only, and based on the reader's associations then cast a vote. For anyone not into firearms, this will sound like a good measure.

If a 10-22 with furniture is considered a weapon of war, why not ask our military to defend our country with .22s? We know the answer, don't we.

The proposed law is also sneaky, in that it grandfathers prior ownership of "assault weapons", however, you are barred from conceal carrying or open carrying any such "assault weapon". In other words, if you were carrying a 15-19 rd semi pistol for self defense, you better switch to a 1911 with 10 rounds and no threaded barrel.

Asinine ... (I thought that spells with double s)