Big brother monitors gold purchases over $100 (Washington State HB 1716)

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  1. Wenis

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  2. EZLivin

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    And George Orwell smiles and says "I told you"...
     
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    I suppose Aldus Huxley is laughing it up with George right now..
     
  4. twoclones

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    I emailed my rant about this to all my friends in Washington State.

    Don't want to be fingerprinted to buy a gold ring?
    Find your Washington State legislators here and write to them all. FYI, you can write one and check the box to have your message sent to all who represent you.
    Find Your Legislator
     
  5. PX4WA

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    not trying to be antagonistic but this is another example of people not reading the orginal bill and making up assumptions not in the law...

    so to clarify... this is still a bill and could certainly change BUT

    the documents are below http://apps.leg.wa.gov/documents/billdocs/2011-12/Pdf/Bills/House Bills/1716.pdf

    bottom line is this only affects the sales that involves a dealer of precious metals from the general public... not by private parties or the purchase of gold by the general public from a dealer/store or another person... it does not regulate sale TO the general public...

    the salient parts of the bill are below...

    (7) "Secondhand property" means any item of personal property
    4 offered for sale which is not new, including metals in any form, except
    5 postage stamps, coins that are legal tender, bullion in the form of
    6 fabricated hallmarked bars, used books, and clothing of a resale value
    7 of seventy-five dollars or less, except furs.
    8 (8) "Transaction" means a pledge, or the purchase of, or
    9 consignment of, or the trade of any item of personal property by a
    10 pawnbroker or a secondhand dealer from a member of the general public.
     
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    I don't think we need any "new" laws. We have enough already.
     
  7. Wenis

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    I stand corrected. When I glanced over this bill, I thought it included legal tender coins and bars, but they are exempt.

    It's directed toward those "Cash for gold" people.
     
  8. PX4WA

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    actually not your fault... the linked article is misinformed and misleading... it's also been quoted in other blogs and taken at face value... it reinforces the saying... not everything on the net is true...

    I just happened to know more about it which is why I thought I'd correct the misperceptions...

    and to the guy who thinks we don't need new laws... we always do... some to correct the old laws that are wrong... and sometimes to allow society to adjust to new threats....

    we just don't need more laws covering the same issue a hundred times....

    (like how we support the new bill to allow use of silencers in WA)... without new laws we'd be stuck with what we have....

    this is one law that actually makes sense as it's aimed at reducing the high rate of home burglaries and muggings that are focused on gold/jewelry... and allow police time to find the jewelry before it is melted...

    unless you're in the CASH 4 GOLD business or routinely coming across loose jewelry that shows up in your pocket... it won't affect you much...
     
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    I sure disagree with that statement. Actually we need less, not more. Not sure why anyone would want more unless they make a living from the legal industry.
     
  10. CavVet

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    +infinity!

    I would like a law moratorium, the only way they can make new laws is to throw out old ones, 2:1. Those schmucks sit down there year after year for 200 years now writing piles upon piles of laws, restrictions, sooner or later we will all be bound and gagged in our homes.
     
  11. Blitzkrieg

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    We have WAY too many already
     
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    What's 10,000 lawyers at the bottom of the sea?

    A good start
     

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