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Best entry level Mil-spec long range optic

Discussion in 'Scopes & Optics' started by Tatanka, Jan 23, 2015.

  1. Tatanka

    Tatanka Hillsboro, Oregon Member

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    So I have been wondering about this for awhile now what would be the best entry level optic for a bolt gun with a mil-spec reticle

    Any and all help would be useful also if you could post prices that would also be rad!
     
  2. DieselScout

    DieselScout S Clackamas County Well-Known Member

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    What do you mean by "mil-spec" reticule? And what distance do you want to shoot at?
     
  3. parallax

    parallax eugene, or-gun Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    seems like tasco super sniper fixxed straight 10x mil-dot scopes, hold up pretty good .. holds zero. i would not buy anything more than 10x as that is too much magnification. i would stay away from low end variable power scopes, as i have never seen one yet that will hold a solid zero, due to the brass/ steel cams inside that are part of the slide mechanism.( will not hold true zero due to internal moving parts.) your results may be different.
     
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  4. parallax

    parallax eugene, or-gun Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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  5. BlindedByScience

    BlindedByScience Vancouver WA Well-Known Member

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    Agree 100% with that recommendation, and the scope parallax linked. The guys at SWFA have the full line of the SWFA "Super Sniper" scopes if you're curious. Best for the $$ you can get, IMHO.

    http://swfa.com/SWFA-SS-C187.aspx
     
  6. eightyeight mag

    eightyeight mag sw wa Active Member

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    Make sure if you get a scope with a mil dot reticle that the turrets are in mils and not moa.
    It will help you a ton to have turrets and reticle match up.

    Also not quite sure how anything more than 10x is too much magnification unless you are referring to a fixed power scope only.

    Another thing to think about is do you want a front focal plane or a second focal plane scope.
    Having a fixed power scope makes that a non issue.

    Knowing what your budget is and what distances you will be shooting would be helpful.
     
  7. DieselScout

    DieselScout S Clackamas County Well-Known Member

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    This make sure your reticule matches your adjustments weather is MIL/MIL or MOA/MOA. FWIW I am very happy with my Redfield Battlezone 3x9x44. Nice build quality, warranty and the adjustments are spot on.
     
  8. Tatanka

    Tatanka Hillsboro, Oregon Member

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    Sorry diesel scout I should have said more, I am looking at shooting around 500 yards at the max (I am a realist I am not going for the 1000 yards right off the bat)

    And yes I ment mil spec reticle

    Thank you guys for more info!
     
  9. eightyeight mag

    eightyeight mag sw wa Active Member

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    Vortex pst 2.5-10x44. milrad reticle or moa. 2nd focal plane.
    Must be on 10x to use substensions on reticle.
    Or do some quick math and use multipliers.
    Or pay a couple hundered more for front focal plane
    also gives you illumination.
    It is nice to have a variable scope for different distances.
    Using a 10x at 100 yards is a bit overkill
     
  10. Darkker

    Darkker Mesa, Wa Active Member

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    We did some side X side comparing
    SWFA 3-15 Vs. Primary Arms 4-14 at a mile this summer, honestly for optics at that distance the PA embarrassed the SWFA.
    PA 4-14x44, mil/mil FFP, side parallax scope has been flawless so far. Have about a thousand rounds through it with my Creedmoor so far.

    I have pics and a post about this comparison on shootersforum, or if you like YouTube, the Military Arms Channel did a 1,000 for $1,000 build and fell in love with it to.

    Cheers
     
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  11. erslll

    erslll Hermiston OR Active Member

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    I still don't know what you mean by "mil spec" reticle? I assume you mean you want a reticle based on mrad as compared to MOA.

    The Vortex PST line is pretty decent. Lots of good features for the price but the glass is not the greatest. I also like the Sightron SIII in that price range. On a gun that will be primarily a target rifle, I would suggest as much magnification as you can afford with an upper limit of about 25x.
     
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  12. spectra

    spectra The Couve Moderator Staff Member Bronze Supporter

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    TapRackNGo PNW Well-Known Member

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    The SWFA Super sniper. Look up sniper 101 by TiborasaurusRex on YouTube for an scope review and long range in general.
     
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  14. parallax

    parallax eugene, or-gun Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    rex's best picks. opinions may vary. If you got alot of time check out his youtube #20 …scopes.

     
  15. Hotolds442

    Hotolds442 Washougal Member

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    I'll vote for the Primary Arms as well. 2 in use and 2 more on the way.
     
  16. Gun Mechanic

    Gun Mechanic Portland Active Member

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    I would agree this is the best bang for the buck entry level variable power FFP scope out there. I shot my friends and loved it. His has the ACSS reticle which is really nice if you're using it for a DMR.

    It's no SWFA 3-15 but it's also not $700
     
  17. Tatanka

    Tatanka Hillsboro, Oregon Member

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    I am looking to spend anywhere from a few hundred but no more then say $600

    Savage Model 10 precision carbine and the other is a Remington 700
     
  18. Gun Mechanic

    Gun Mechanic Portland Active Member

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    $200 bushnell Elite 3200 10x mil/mil

    $300 SWFA 10x mil/mil

    $400 Weaver tactical 3-10X mil/mil

    $560 vortex viper HS-T 4-16 x 44 mil/mil FFP
     
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    bolus Portland Gold Supporter Gold Supporter 2015 Volunteer 2016 Volunteer

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  20. spectra

    spectra The Couve Moderator Staff Member Bronze Supporter

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    I think that scope is different. The FFP scope does not have that retical.