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Best "Brush Busting" Cartridge? Put on your thinking caps!

Discussion in 'General Firearm Discussion' started by Spitpatch, Apr 9, 2011.

  1. Spitpatch

    Spitpatch Forest Grove, Oregon Well-Known Member

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    See thread in "Hunting" forum, titled "Hunting with 357/44...". Page 2, for a post I placed there regarding "brush busting" cartridges, and a chance to win a big 10 points!

    Your entry will qualify you for a drawing for 11 points!
     
  2. One-Eyed Ross

    One-Eyed Ross Winlock, WA Well-Known Member

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    How about a M2 Browning heavy barrel shooting API (armor piercing incendiary)....
     
  3. salmonriverjohn

    salmonriverjohn N.W Oregon coast, Gods country Well-Known Member

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    An excellent discreption of his article. If my "old" memory is correct, it was in Outdoor life was it not? If I recall correctly, his theory was that a spitzer was deflected less than a round nosed projectile due it's angle of deflection? I have a .45-70 built on a double barrel platform that is deadly when used in it's proper application. That said, I would never take a shot through the brush, I owe that to the animal that I intend to kill. Now if you can only convince those that actually still believe they are used for "brush" shooting. Well done.
     
  4. varmiter

    varmiter orchards wa. Member

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    I hunt with a marlin 45/70 in thick cover for elk for one reason and that is quick handling and great knockdown power at those ranges
     
  5. Pauly

    Pauly N. Portland Active Member

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    They aren't going to kill a deer, but if simply getting through brush is what you're after, a 12 gauge with a heavy load & packed with flechette will reach your target through brush.
    They used to use it in Vietnam to get through the heavy foliage when receiving fire from snipers in trees.
     
  6. drew

    drew OR Well-Known Member

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    I'd love to see someone pack one of those around.:bluelaugh:
     
  7. Mark W.

    Mark W. Silverton, OR Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    .348 Winchester 250 grain flat point. won't deflect it will crash through smaller brush until it hits something with the density of a Brown bear. Sorry only available in the Model 71 Winchester.

    the second rifle I hunted with as a kid I think from 14 to 17. Had to give up the 30-30 younger brother needed something so dad shifted me up.
     
  8. MA Duce

    MA Duce Central Oregon Well-Known Member

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    They're only about 96lbs empty.....what are you..lazy????:laugh::laugh:
     
  9. sixfoot674

    sixfoot674 canby Member

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    in my hunting group,im the young guy so im the one that has to beat the brush in the valleys flushing game out. so something quick handling and powerful is ideal. love my marlin 336 in .35 rem. great close range knockdown power. not great for range. wouldnt dare a longer shot than 200 yrds
     
  10. One-Eyed Ross

    One-Eyed Ross Winlock, WA Well-Known Member

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    Heck, why carry the M2? Get a swivel mount on your truck and a half, undo the the canvas and you have a perfect "stand" for hunting...
     
  11. Buddhalux

    Buddhalux Hillsboro, Oregon Active Member

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    They are heavy as a mofo. I once had to carry the M2, tripod, T&E, and barrel in my ruck once as well as my M16. Needless to say it took two troops to get me on my feet with my ruck on. I couldn't run but it wasn't that bad humping it on your back once you're on your feet.
     
  12. MA Duce

    MA Duce Central Oregon Well-Known Member

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    I have many hours hanging on the back of of a Ma Duce, and used to regularly pack them below decks to PM them. We had them deck mounted over a unique version of an 81MM mortar which could be either drop fired or trigger fired. Very effective little combo.

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  13. Lloyd Braun

    Lloyd Braun Vancouver Active Member

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    50 beowulf
     
  14. madderg

    madderg Salem oregon Member

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    444 Marlin works very well.
     
  15. deadeye

    deadeye Albany,OR. Moderator Staff Member

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    I dont bust brush with the bullet I bust it with my butt so I have a clear shot with the 45/70. I dont shoot at what I dont have a clear sight picture of and that would include several very nice bucks I've had the pleasure to meet and watch run away.
     
  16. jyerxa

    jyerxa Graham Member

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    My brush gun is also the 35 Rem
     
  17. saread

    saread Bothell, WA Member

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    Talk to the oldtimers and you'll get 30-40 Krag with a 220 gr. round nose bullet.
     
  18. MrNiceGuy

    MrNiceGuy between springfield and shelbyville Well-Known Member

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  19. i8asquirrel

    i8asquirrel Keizer, oregon Member

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    This is a BS.concept....People started talking of Brush guns (Weapons suited for hunting in heavy cover, large bullets with good conetic energy to disable game fast) not guns for smashing through brush. I have seen testing were a rack was made and small branches placed into it and placed in front of a target...the amount of deflection was shocking!
    IF you cant see and get a clean humain shot dont fire at it....I feel many accidental shootings could be avoided by people thinking and placing the shot instead of rattleing away at Brush!
     
  20. i8asquirrel

    i8asquirrel Keizer, oregon Member

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    Yes I have seen a204 ruger 32gr bullet deflected by grass when shooting at ground squirrels.