Bend, OR Sportsman's has an interesting way of circumventing the 12/8 deadline

[2Wheels4Ever]

Yes, another 114 thread.

I just got back from Sportsman's this morning and they had a little work around for those that purchase a gun now, but won't have their BGC go through by 12/08.

They're selling the guns on a layaway system. Because the sale date is time stamped pre-12/08, the purchase was completed prior to 114 going into effect, thereby enabling you to take your gun home if the BGC is conducted post 114.

I'm not sure of other Sportsman's are following suite, or if this method will get a pass from our dear friends at OSP, but I like how they've found, and are implementing a small loophole.

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[ZA_Survivalist]

Any circumvention of this asinine 114 and the purposeful backlog it intended to create is amazing.

I applaud them doing something, anything to put dirt in the eye of the 114 chunts.

 

[E4mafia]

OH NO NOT ANOTHER SCARY LOOPHOLE WE WILL HAVE TO HEAR ABOUT!

This is a threat to our democracy

this is a humorous attempt at making fun of the anti gunners

 

[Bobbygun]

Oh my! We need to close the Bend Loophole!

 

[User 1234]

Out of all the locales where motivation to resist 114 might arise I would not have forecast Bend.

 

[Hooyah DeepSea]

Roger That User 1234, That is a fact!

Although, I heard that there were something like 2200 'yes' votes in Crook county, of all places!!!

Flippin astounding!

 

[solv3nt]

I was kind of wondering about that. The state police is inferring that any unprocessed BGCs will require a permit, but they've already been purchased. They're just waiting on the slowass Popo.

 

[Nosferatu]

Aren't all sales until the 8th, well, before the 8th and therefore already purchased? I don't understand what layaway has to do with anything?

 

[PORSCHE928S4]

Looks good on paper

 

[wolfcreed]

I have a receipt for mine from my LGS via a credit card purchase with serial # on the form, etc. how might a layaway be better than that? I would think the outright purchase receipt has more weight than layaway.

 

[Jade Falcon]

This is surprising considering the Bend area overwhelmingly supported this measure and voted Democrat. But hey, if it works, more power to them.

 

[Nosferatu]

I have a receipt for mine from my LGS via a credit card purchase with serial # on the form, etc. how might a layaway be better than that? I would think the outright purchase receipt has more weight than layaway.

Yeah, this whole thing doesn't make sense.

Once you purchase the gun, the BGC gets submitted. I don't see how the financial terms of the transaction changes anything.

If anything, I could see layaway being worse if they don't start the BGC until after the final payment is made on the gun. I'd imagine even on a layaway they start the BGC check right away, but I've never bought a gun on layaway.

Hoping someone can clarify this, I'm genuinely curious.

This just sounds like a typical big-box store gun counter clerk trying to sound more clever than they really are.

 

[BillM]

Suspect that the way it will work is that the OSP will not approve any
background checks after 12/7 without evidence of the purchase
permit. Layaway or paid in full before 12/7 won't make any difference,
you are screwed. Hoping that at a minimum we get an injunction that
says "sales will continue under the old system until the permit system is
operational in all 36 counties".

 

[Greenbug]

Doesn't really matter when you paid for the gun or put it on lay-a-way etc...
This relates to when the transfer of the firearm takes place...

OSP is saying no transfers after 12-8-22 without a permit to purchase, full stop, nothing more, do not pass GO, do not collect $200

 

[DirectDrive]

Doesn't really matter when you paid for the gun or put it on lay-a-way etc...
This relates to when the transfer of the firearm takes place...

OSP is saying no transfers after 12-8-22 without a permit to purchase, full stop, nothing more, do not pass GO, do not collect $200

This is how I understand it.
Layaway, full purchase wouldn't matter.

 

[Mikej]

OSP is saying no transfers after 12-8-22 without a permit to purchase, full stop, nothing more, do not pass GO, do not collect $200

If what I heard on Lars Larson in correct? The feckless secretary of state is who made the decision of how this unconstitutional, steaming pile of feces was going to go down. Not OSP. shemia fagen. With all her work and experience in law enforcement and all.

 

[dbg19]

Washington County Sheriff

"According to the Oregon Secretary of State, Measure 114 will go into effect at 12:00 AM on December 8, 2022.

On that date, firearm sales by dealers, at gun shows, and private transfers (other than close relative transfers) will stop in Oregon. Gun dealers cannot transfer a firearm after December 8 without the purchaser's valid permit-to-purchase, as defined in section 3 of the measure. If you purchase a firearm before December 8, it must be in your possession before the measure takes effect. The purchase is not finalized if the firearm is not in your possession."

https://www.washingtoncountyor.gov/sheriff/news/statement-sheriff-garrett-measure-114

 

[156256Hunter]

Suspect that the way it will work is that the OSP will not approve any
background checks after 12/7 without evidence of the purchase
permit. Layaway or paid in full before 12/7 won't make any difference,
you are screwed. Hoping that at a minimum we get an injunction that
says "sales will continue under the old system until the permit system is
operational in all 36 counties".

OSP might still do the BGCs, but 114 prohibits FFLs from transferring the firearm without the extra special permit. So it'd be up to each FFL, in theory

 

[wolfcreed]

Doesn't really matter when you paid for the gun or put it on lay-a-way etc...
This relates to when the transfer of the firearm takes place...

OSP is saying no transfers after 12-8-22 without a permit to purchase, full stop, nothing more, do not pass GO, do not collect $200

Unfortunately, I think you are correct. I forgot about the transfer part. That's the stickler, not the purchase itself.

 

[RVTECH]

and they had a little work around for those that purchase a gun now,

Who were the 'they' who informed you of this? Someone behind the counter? Management?

Like the rest I don't see this as a 'work around' or changing anything.