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So what is wrong with the P-series?
I guess a lot has changed in the last few years.
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0BQY/is_1_50/ai_110470559/
No one would pay 350-400 for a hi point(new or otherwise). But for a P series ruger maybe. And I have to defend ruger here as my P-90 is a tough gun that shoots very well and is very dependable.
Surplus guns are usually guns used in foreign countries militaries, most are demilled then re-assembled in the US. Century Arms imports alot of surplus guns and ammo. All mosins, CZ-52's, TT-33's, Sig P6's and many others are surplus guns. The Sig P-6's could be had last year in the $270ish range, but they have increased since then. Mosins are still cheap, although the ammo has doubled (but it is still cheap). Cheap CZ-52's and TT-33's ($150 price range) are difficult to come by, but can be had if you look hard. The greatest part about the CZ-52's and TT-33's is the ammo they shoot is $130 or so for 1200 rounds, and it's a hot round (7.62X25 tokarev). There are other surplus guns out there, but the cheap ammo has dried up for alot of them, which will happen eventually with the guns mentioned above.
...thank god some one said it.
Who ever would consider Ruger's "budget crap guns, havent been dealing in firearms long enough.
Taurus is decent, but from Brazil, they are a very good gun.
Springfield now has the Croation HS2000>>>XD Series, prior to that there 1911 were decent at best...
Rugers are not combat Pistols,, but built within 1911 specs...(often times bulky), and the HS2000 was a duty built combat pistol.
Not the same crowd, budget, or availability.
But if you can find an XD for fewer than 400, any caliber, I will buy it right now.
Besides, I was in the military and forced to contend with a Beretta, never in my civilian life would I do such a thing.
Ruger P series is hands down the best bang for your buck, how it got looped in with Hi Point...
As far as XD series, well it is the real "1st gun of the 21st Century"...as some often quoted specialists have said.
If you prefer GLOCKS over XD's, you havent fired an XD. But thats a tired, old horse to beat.
Buying on gunbroker of course involves other fees, which kills it alot of times for me. Yet I have found things on there that were worth purchasing.
Bottom line, just do your research before you buy.
Glocks are designed to suck up weapon allowances. Mostly LEO market. True Operators would never waste there money on them.
Wow, that is a bold statement. I strongly disagree.