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I don't disagree with anything you said. That said, an untrained person is not going to be as effective with any weapon including a gun, guns are just a little easier and more forgiving. You don't want to be the guy getting shot to death with his own gun either.
Of course batons are a deadly weapon, that is what I like about them, they can be used as a less lethal alternative or instantly ratcheted up the scale simply by how it is used. My school of thought is self defense goes way beyond the gun and that includes hands on, impact and improvised weapons.
One thing to look at is the state law regarding definitions and classifications of weapons. In WA, an ASP fits the definition of a deadly weapon. That being said, using a deadly weapon absent a deadly threat would be iffy legally and practically. But, in a "any means necessary" situation, dance with the girl you brought. If you're found to have used the ASP lawfully in defense of your life or from substantial harm, at least in WA, you won't get convicted and you can't be sued. You'll also get reimbursed legal fees.