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basic smith kit

Discussion in 'General Firearm Discussion' started by rick49, Nov 12, 2013.

  1. rick49

    rick49 Lewis Well-Known Member

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    I didn't quite know where to put this and my apologies if this has been covered before. The warden has asked me to put my Christmas wish list together and have it on her desk by no later than 0600, 25 November.

    Besides the custom Nighthawk 1911 (which I ask for every year btw) I would like a basic gun Smith kit to work on some of my guns. You have any suggestions I can give Ms. Klaus and where she could find one?

    Thanks
     
  2. Blitzkrieg

    Blitzkrieg WA Well-Known Member

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    First thing you must have is a proper screwdriver set for gun screws:

    Wheeler® 89-Piece Screwdriver Set with Level : Cabela's

    Then a good high quality steel, a poly and a brass punch set with a gunsmith hammer set with plastic, brass and steel hammer heads. Look at Midway and Brownells for those. Also consider getting steel cleaning rods for your various calibers, IMO Dewey brand poly coated are the best
     
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  3. rick49

    rick49 Lewis Well-Known Member

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    Ms. Klaus and especially myself thank you for the reply, that was exactly the info I wanted to give to the bride.
    Rick
     
  4. Blitzkrieg

    Blitzkrieg WA Well-Known Member

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    Rick, I pulled that screwdriver set out of my safe to be sure to get you the good intel.. say hi to the warden for me :D
     
  5. wichaka

    wichaka Wa State Well-Known Member

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    Look at both Wheeler Engineering and Brownells, both will have what you're looking for.

    PLEASE do not look at your local hardware store for such tools...in most cases, they won't do!

    A good screwdriver set, as mentioned above. Along with a standard punch set, I prefer Starrett. I like Brownells combo hammer...brass on one side, and nylon on the other. Files from Nicholson or Grobet...Swiss cut pillar in 2 & 4 in narrow with a length at least 6"...8" is ok as well. And a good bench block. The 4" round nylon model from Brownells in the one I use a lot. But Wheeler has an excellent model as well. There's is more for a 1911, but can be used for other guns. The Brownells block is more generic.
     
  6. Blitzkrieg

    Blitzkrieg WA Well-Known Member

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    Needle files for sure
     
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  7. rick49

    rick49 Lewis Well-Known Member

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    Thanks Gents, I passed along the info. BTW We got a compliment on getting the above in such a timely manner. Now please excuse me I have to go and get ready for inspection. :thumbup:
     
  8. MountainBear

    MountainBear Sweet Home, OR Well-Known Member

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    Starrett make great punches. But my advice would be to get Craftsman for the smaller punches. They break. A lot if they get used a lot. Doesn't matter if they say starrett or craftsman. But you can take a broken craftsman punch down to the local Sears or TruValue (or wherever carries them) and they will exchange it, no questions asked. I'm on my fourth or fifth, and they've never questioned the exchange.
    I like the wheeler engineering screwdriver set. It is also beneficial to get an inch/pound torque wrench. Wheeler makes one, as does Brownell's. If you plan on mounting scoped or removing and reinstalling stocks, this is worth its weight in gold.

    So I'd say try this list:
    Punch set
    Nylon/Brass head hammer
    smooth jaw hemostat
    inch/pound torque wrench
    nice set of calipers

    A gift certificate to Brownells is always an acceptable gift and can help avoid the annoyance of returning and reordering and waiting if it's not exactly what you want.
     
  9. Blitzkrieg

    Blitzkrieg WA Well-Known Member

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    Mountainbear, unfortunately Sears will only replace a broken tool once, now.. they altered their warranty post facto and as a result I no longer buy Craftsman tools, although I have a roller chest full of them and yard tools
     
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    jbett98 NW Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Don't forget a brass drift punch set. One of the few items I will buy at Harbor Freight.
     
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    MountainBear Sweet Home, OR Well-Known Member

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    Wonder when they changed that policy. I've exchanged the same punch twice in the last two months. They've never questioned me. I hope that doesn't change...
     
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  12. Blitzkrieg

    Blitzkrieg WA Well-Known Member

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    The change came many years ago. Unless they changed it back, it's just your local Sears either not following corporate policy or being nice to you. Less said to them the better. Years ago I came upon an antique Sears Craftsman wheelbarrow that was rusted out and you would have thought I was trying to pull a stickup on them from the reaction, and after they gave me the new model I was told it would not be replaced again, lifetime means you get one replacement
     
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    MountainBear Sweet Home, OR Well-Known Member

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    Yep, I've even said that I was on multiple replacements. Either way, I'm happy with them so far. But I half expect the reaction you got every time I go in. Thankfully, our Bend Sears is closing. I checked with the TruValue and they said they now owned the brand and would be happy to replace it. Hopefully that continues.
     
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    edogg Western Washington Active Member

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    If you want a real nice handcrafted tool set, check out Grace tools. Nobody else makes tools like this anymore.

    http://www.graceusaguntools.com/

    They also make sets not listed on their site. Email them if you have specific needs. That's how I got my Marlin set.
     
  15. Caveman Jim

    Caveman Jim West of Oly Springer Slayer 2016 Volunteer

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    That right there would have made me look for a "Quality" punch set... just sayin...
    I too have so many Craftsman hand tools from back in the day, wondering with my eyesight fading if they will trade me the ones with the laser etched ones??? Doubt it...
     
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    Certaindeaf SE Portland Well-Known Member

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    Some materials for padding the faces of your vice.. lead sheet, brass/copper, nylon and leather all seem to come in handy at times.
     
  17. JSJPDX

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    Add some good jewler's tweezers to your list, some of the springs I've run into are pretty small.
     
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  18. rick49

    rick49 Lewis Well-Known Member

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    I want to give a great big thanks to all of those who took the time to respond to my question. This thread has gone viral amongst my family! For the first Christmas since God made dirt I won't have shirts, sweaters, socks taking up room in a closet, and plastic talking fish hanging on the wall in my den and singing beer drinking songs every time I walk by. Gents... a tip of the hat to ya :thumbup:
     
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  19. MountainBear

    MountainBear Sweet Home, OR Well-Known Member

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    A reasonable thought Jim, however, I didn't buy the craftsman punch until I had already broke two starrett punches. I also abuse my small punches. It's one of the few times I break the rule my grandfather taught me about only using tools for their intended purposes...
     
  20. GOG

    GOG State of Jefferson Well-Known Member

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    I have the Brownell's screwdriver set with the additional/optional tools. I think it ran around $130. or so with the extras. It's sometning I couldn't do without.

    I also have four of the "Gun Digest" Assembly/Dissassembly manuals. I have the semi-automatic pistols, revolver, centerfire rifle and shotgun manuals. They're around thirty bucks apiece and worth every penny. Between them and the interwebz, most tasks can be accomplished with a minimum of cuts, scrapes and foul language.