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How? The trust would be treated as the entity selling the item, not you. The trust still has to abide by all NFA laws.


I think what he referring to is the ability to change trustees. On a single shot you could potentially completely change trustees without having to actually transfer "ownership" into someone elses trust.
 
D'oh! Well, I do not know if it is worth it..........cost wise.:(
you know, if you serialize the tube, the internals can always be modified, thats what a form 1 would be, your stamping the serialized part, so if you find a width and length you want, and you just wanna play with baffles, then its 1 stamp.
 
No, They can not. The vagaries of the NFA. You build a form 1 silencer and its built...its done. You cannot build replacement baffles for it. You are a Maker, not a Manufacturer. A silencer "02/07 manufacturer" is a well defined legal entity. A "Maker" as defined in the NFA is the builder of one device as allowed on the form 1. He is not a manufacturer. Only an 02/07 manufacturer can build new baffles for an existing silencer. A Form 1 is not cart blanche to modify or build new parts for an existing silencer that didnt work out the way the maker wanted.

Will anyone know? No. Is it legal? No. Ive seen people argue the point before. Those people are wrong.

Light reading...https://blog.princelaw.com/2016/08/13/atfs-shocking-position-on-makers-of-silencerssuppressors-especially-in-relation-to-solvent-traps/

And of course for the coup de grâce, the infamous Bardwell Letter of 1999....

DEPARTMENT OF THE TREASURY
BUREAU OF ALCOHOL, TOBACCO AND FIREARMS
WASHINGTON, DC 20226

AUG 23 1999

901040:GS
5320/99-0115

Dear Mr. Bardwell:

This is in response to your letter of June 28, 1999, regarding the repair of a silencer by an individual owner. You ask "whether it is lawful for the owner of a lawfully possessed silencer ... to repair that silencer himself, by replacing unserialized internal components with new components of his own making." You cited the replacement of a worn out plastic "wipe" or damaged baffle as an example.

As you are aware, the terms "firearm silencer" and "firearm muffler" mean any device for silencing, muffling, or diminishing the report of a portable firearm, including any combination of parts, designed or redesigned, and intended for use in assembling or fabricating a firearm silencer or firearm muffler, and any part intended only for use in such assembly or fabrication. Thus, certain internal components, intended only for use in a silencer, are silencers as defined.

If an individual made one of these parts, even for use as a replacement part, the individual would be making a silencer. Under the provisions of the National Firearms Act, any person must apply for and receive permission to make a silencer and pay the making tax for each silencer made. This would require the individual owner to file an ATF Form 1 application for each silencer part to be made with the payment of $200.00 for each application prior to making any replacement part.

In regard to the two parts in your cited example, we consider a baffle to be a silencer, but a wipe, which is usually nothing more than a rubber or plastic disc with a hole in it, is generally not considered to be a silencer. Thus an individual owner could replace a wipe.

- 2 -

Mr. Bardwell

For the replacement of a part or parts that meet the definition of a silencer, the individual owner would need to arrange for the transfer of the silencer to a Federal firearms licensee who is qualified to manufacture silencers.

If you have questions about the classification of other silencer components, please provide us with a description of them or should any additional information be needed, please contact Gary Schiable at (202) 927-8330.


Sincerely yours,

[signed]
Kent M. Cousins
Chief, National Firearms Act Branch
 
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bubblegum i forgot to put the wink wink emoji at the end of my comment, you are correct tho.
Way want to fix that post then.... those can be reasons threads like these get canned. We never want to give bad information.

Always link to appropriate info.;)
 

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