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Barry No Care

Discussion in 'Off Topic' started by simon99, Dec 4, 2013.

  1. simon99

    simon99 Central Oregon Well-Known Member

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    So, here's one for you...

    A good friend of mine currently is insured through his wife's employer. They are a younger couple ( under 35) non-smokers, healthy, rarely go to the doctor. His wife's plan is covered by her employer, but has his insurance deducted out of her pay.

    It used to be around $200 per month, but now he said they are paying nearly $600 per month. Ouch.

    Thanks Obama.
     
  2. Caveman Jim

    Caveman Jim West of Oly Springer Slayer 2016 Volunteer

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    not to mention but his deductible probably doubled or tripled like mine was going to when I checked just for S&G...
    All because we need pediatrics, maternity and geriatric coverages at age 55....:bluelaugh:
     
  3. rufus

    rufus State of Jefferson Well-Known Member

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    Just wait until the employer mandate kicks in, they will both be without.
     
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  4. rufus

    rufus State of Jefferson Well-Known Member

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    It's funny how the prez gets to pick and choose what part of the law gets enforced, when it gets enforced, and who is exempt. Never seen that before.
     
  5. Blitzkrieg

    Blitzkrieg WA Well-Known Member

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    Welcome to the brave new world
     
  6. Jamie6.5

    Jamie6.5 Western OR Well-Known Member

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    FIFY Blitz.
     
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  7. RicInOR

    RicInOR Washington County Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    from Drudge: "DIRTY HARRY EXEMPTS STAFF FROM OBAMACARE"

    from my brother - they administration spokes-person keeps saying the rates are coming down. But like the OP his have tripled.
    As far as we know, and I did't take high school biology..., he won't need obstetrics care, but that has to be in his new plan.
     
  8. rufus

    rufus State of Jefferson Well-Known Member

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    Some people call it Progress. I just Hope they Change it back once this Jackwagon is out of office.
     
  9. 3MTA3

    3MTA3 DMZ between Liberty and Tyranny Behind Enemy Lines Bronze Supporter

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    Next in orfice is likely Hills, Kerry as Veep, next Secy of State - Miley Cyrus? (couldn't be worse than Hills or Kerry). Republicans have no game, not that the leadership is any different from the Democrats.
     
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  10. rufus

    rufus State of Jefferson Well-Known Member

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    ^ Not really "like" but "agree". :)
     
  11. fuhr52

    fuhr52 Lane County. Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Make no mistake. Obama care has nothing to do with health or health care. It has everything to do with control. If the government can constitutionally force us to buy health insurance there's no end to what we the people can be forced to buy and/or do.
     
  12. U201491

    U201491 Well-Known Member

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    Time to ramp up pressure for impeachment !
     
  13. Blitzkrieg

    Blitzkrieg WA Well-Known Member

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    Well that's how they have done it to us, isn't it? A nation founded for the posterity of the Founders, now fully invaded and ruled by the third world

    If the rules allowed I would show y'all where this is promised in the good book as a punishment
     
  14. ATCclears

    ATCclears Seattle area, WA Well-Known Member

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    It gets "better"...

    The WSJ has an article in tomorrow's edition about the drug-cost surprises lurking out there in many of the new health plans. I cannot post the article since it is paid content, but look around tomorrow at the news to see if a few other sources pick up and paraphrase the article.

    Peter

    Link and snippet:

    Drug-Cost Surprises Lurk Inside New Health Plans - WSJ.com

    "Americans with chronic illnesses—who are expected to be among the biggest beneficiaries of the health law—face widely varying out-of-pocket drug costs that could be obscured on the new insurance exchanges.

    Under the law, patients can't be denied coverage due to existing conditions or charged higher rates than healthier peers. The law also sets an annual out-of-pocket maximum of up to $6,350 for individuals and $12,700 for families, after which insurers pay the full tab.

    But depending on the coverage they select, some patients on expensive drug regimens could reach that level fast. Some medications for conditions including hepatitis, rheumatoid arthritis, HIV and cancer can retail for thousands of dollars a month, and some plans require patients to pay as much as 50% of the cost."
     
  15. ATCclears

    ATCclears Seattle area, WA Well-Known Member

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    Regardless of your political views, this will make you think about the magnitude of the expenditure...

    Eastwood-Obama chat on Obamacare.jpg

    Eastwood-Obama chat on Obamacare.jpg
     
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  16. rufus

    rufus State of Jefferson Well-Known Member

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    Just think of the income taxes we would have to pay...
     
  17. fredball

    fredball Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

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    Why Obamacare is a Fantastic Success


    By Wayne Allyn Root










    There are 2 major political parties in America. I’m a member of the naive, stupid, and cowardly one. I’m a Republican. How stupid is the GOP? They still don’t get it. I told them 5 years ago, 2 books ago, a national bestseller ago (“The Ultimate Obama Survival Guide”), and in hundreds of articles and commentaries, that Obamacare was never meant to help America, or heal the sick, or lower healthcare costs, or lower the debt, or expand the economy.










    The GOP needs to stop calling Obamacare a “train wreck.” That means it’s a mistake, or accident. That means it’s a gigantic flop, or failure. It’s NOT. This is a brilliant, cynical, and purposeful attempt to damage the U.S. economy, kill jobs, and bring down capitalism. It’s not a failure, it’s Obama’s grand success. It’s not a “train wreck,” Obamacare is a suicide attack. He wants to hurt us, to bring us to our knees, to capitulate- so we agree under duress to accept big government.










    Obama’s hero and mentor was Saul Alinsky- a radical Marxist intent on destroying capitalism. Alinksky’s stated advice was to call the other guy “a terrorist” to hide your own intentions. To scream that the other guy is “ruining America,” while you are the one actually plotting the destruction of America. To claim again and again…in every sentence of every speech…that you are “saving the middle class,” while you are busy wiping out the middle class.










    The GOP is so stupid they can’t see it. There are no mistakes here. This is a planned purposeful attack. The tell-tale sign isn’t the disastrous start to Obamacare. Or the devastating effect the new taxes are having on the economy. Or the death of full-time jobs. Or the overwhelming debt. Or the dramatic increases in health insurance rates. Or the 70% of doctors now thinking of retiring- bringing on a healthcare crisis of unimaginable proportions. Forget all that.










    The real sign that this is a purposeful attack upon capitalism is how many Obama administration members and Democratic Congressmen are openly calling Tea Party Republicans and anyone who wants to stop Obamacare “terrorists.” There’s the clue. Even the clueless GOP should be able to see that. They are calling the reasonable people…the patriots…the people who believe in the Constitution…the people who believe exactly what the Founding Fathers believed…the people who want to take power away from corrupt politicians who have put America $17 trillion in debt…terrorists?










    That’s because they are Saul Alinsky-ing the GOP. The people trying to purposely hurt America, capitalism and the middle class…are calling the patriots by a terrible name to fool, confuse and distract the public.










    Obamacare is a raving, rollicking, fantastic success. Stop calling it a failure. Here is what it was created to do. It is succeeding on all counts.










    #1) Obamacare was intended to bring about the Marxist dream- redistribution of wealth. Rich people, small business owners, and the middle class are being robbed, so that the money can be redistributed to poor people (who vote Democrat). Think about it. If you’re rich or middle class, you now have to pay for your own healthcare costs (at much higher rates) AND 40 million other people’s costs too (through massive tax increases). So you’re stuck paying for both bills. You are left broke. Brilliant.











    #2) Obamacare was intended to wipe out the middle class and make them dependent on government. Think about it. Even Obama’s IRS predicts that health insurance for a typical American family by 2016 will be $20,000 per year. But how would middle class Americans pay that bill and have anything left for food or housing or living? People that make $40K, or $50K, or $60K can’t possibly hope to spend $20K on health insurance without becoming homeless. Bingo. That’s how you make middle class people dependent on government. That’s how you make everyone addicted to government checks. Brilliant.










    #3) As a bonus, Obamacare is intended to kill every decent paying job in the economy, creating only crummy, crappy part-time jobs. Why? Just to make sure the middle class is trapped, with no way out. Just to make sure no one has the $20,000 per year to pay for health insurance, thereby guaranteeing they become wards of the state. Brilliant.










    #4) Obamacare is intended to bankrupt small business, and therefore starve donations to the GOP. Think about it. Do you know a small business owner? I know hundreds of them. Their rates are being doubled, tripled and quadrupled by Obamacare. Guess who writes 75% of the checks to Republican candidates and conservative causes? Small business. Even if a small business owner manages to survive, he or she certainly can’t write a big check to the GOP anymore. Money is the “mother’s milk” of politics. Without donations, a political party ceases to exist. Bingo. That’s the point of Obamacare. Obama is bankrupting his political opposition and drying up donations to the GOP. Brilliant.









    #5) Obamacare is intended to make the IRS all-powerful. It adds thousands of new IRS agents. It puts the IRS in charge of overseeing 15% of the U.S. economy. The IRS has the right because of Obamacare to snoop into every aspect of your life, to go into your bank accounts, to fine you, to frighten you, to intimidate you. And Obama and his socialist cabal have access to your deepest medical secrets. By law your doctor has to ask your sexual history. That information is now in the hands of Obama and the IRS to blackmail GOP candidates into either not running, or supporting bigger government, or leaking the info and ruining your campaign. Or have you forgotten the IRS harassed, intimidated and persecuted critics of Obama and conservative groups? Now Obama hands the IRS even more power. Big Brother rules our lives. Brilliant.










    #6) Obamacare is intended to unionize 15 million healthcare workers. That produces $15 billion in new union dues. That money goes to fund Democratic candidates and socialist causes- thereby guaranteeing Obama’s friends never lose another election, and Obama’s policies keep ruining capitalism and bankrupting business owners long after he’s out of office.










    Message to the GOP: This isn’t a game. This isn’t tiddly-winks. This is a serious, purposeful attempt to highjack America and destroy capitalism. This isn’t a train wreck. It’s purposeful suicide. It’s not failing, it’s working exactly according to plan. Obama knows what he’s doing. Stop apologizing and start fighting.




    Oh and one more thing…Conservatives aren’t “terrorists.” We are patriots and we represent the Constitution and the Founding Fathers. We are the heroes and good guys.











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