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BANNING LEAD AMMO IN OREGON

Discussion in 'Legal & Political Archive' started by python287, Jan 26, 2015.

  1. python287

    python287 Neskowin,OR Active Member

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    This the mindset of liberal democrats in the Oregon Legislature: Make sure you contact your Representative to let them know what you think about the plan to outlaw lead ammo in Oregon::mad::mad:

    Thank you for writing to me about California’s ban on "traditional" ammunition. I have to admit that I don’t follow the California legislature very closely; I have enough to worry about closer to home.

    Please know that I am not in favor of banning ammunition outright, nor do I support any “backdoor” gun control. I do, however, favor a ban on using lead ammunition for hunting. This is already standard practice for waterfowl and I think it makes sense for other game species as well. Wounded and un-retrieved small game, as well as gut piles from big game are magnets for scavengers and predators. Any lead in their bodies gets passed into the food chain and accumulates, especially in apex predators. Lead is a potent and well-understood toxin in both people and wildlife. Keeping lead out of that cycle and protecting our wildlife is responsible resource management, not an attack on anyone’s outdoor recreation.

    I understand that reasonable people will disagree with me on this issue. Thank you for taking the time to write and share your views.

    Warm regards,
    :s0014:
    David

    Rep. David Gomberg
    Oregon House District 10
    900 Court St NE H-371
    Salem, OR 97301
    541-921-2038
     
  2. 223to45

    223to45 Whatcom Active Member

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    Give them a inch......
     
  3. Martini_Up

    Martini_Up NW USA Well-Known Member

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    Let's ban sunshine. It's a potent and well-understood carcinogen in both people and wildlife.

    GTFO.
     
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  4. Caveman Jim

    Caveman Jim West of Oly Springer Slayer 2016 Volunteer

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    He must be a Kalifornicator that move north to further his agenda!!!! If not, then he is an impersonator!!!
     
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  5. bnsaibum

    bnsaibum Corvallis, OR Well-Known Member 2015 Volunteer

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    There was some info I saw somewhere about California's ban that basically said that a study showing no direct link between lead hunting ammo and CA Condor lead toxicity was improperly posted (too late) to deter their ban. This just news just came out in the last month or so and I haven't relocated it yet.

    I'll post it when I find it.
     
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  6. Stomper

    Stomper Oceania Rising White Is The New Brown Silver Supporter

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    Bullets and shot shells are two different issues. MILLIONS of BB get shot out every year and waterfowl where the birds (and fish) can ingest them while feeding off the bottom.

    Hunting with a rifle only shoots one, maybe two rounds for a kill... If you evn get a kill. Drastically different amounts of projectiles being spent in those activities.
     
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  7. hollowbase

    hollowbase Oregon Member

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    That lead shot not only out numbers the number of bullets shot, but they are shot in the same place year after year after year. That could cause an accumulation of lead and therefore a concentration. I've been hunting for 50 years and I don't think I've ever had the opportunity to shoot a deer in the same place. Lead shot and bullets is apple and oranges.
     
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  8. bnsaibum

    bnsaibum Corvallis, OR Well-Known Member 2015 Volunteer

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  9. Lance Jacobs

    Lance Jacobs South Willamette Valley Oregon Well-Known Member

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    WOW, he is not from around Portland. He represents the area around Newport on the coast. If even reps from rural districts are lining up to support this, I don't know how we are going to be able to stop it.

    The bottom line difference here is that there was plenty of valid science that showed that lead shotgun pellets were causing mass poisoning of waterfowl.

    And no such data exists regarding the use of lead ammo in hunting rifles.

    We are being fed ONE BIG FAT LIE!!

    .
     
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  10. coyote223

    coyote223 NW Oregon Stamp Collector,,,

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    Kommiefornia is a deadly cancer that is spreading,,,
     
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  11. Roger65

    Roger65 Portland Active Member

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    You might be surprised to find out how liberal the area around Newport, and Yachats is. Lots of urban liberals retire there. Tillamook too. I went on a weekend trip with the wifey and found the mindset and vibe down there more like Portland than I expected.
     
  12. FortRock

    FortRock Bend/Salem, OR Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    California’s ban of lead ammunition has failed (AB821)to decrease or manifest any correlated risk to the Condors or for that matter any game animals. Continuing studies reveal other sources of lead have contributed to Condor mortality….not hunter’s ammunition. It is my belief, that Oregon’s new push to ban lead ammunition along with the initiative to introduce California Condors into our air space is nothing short of a well planned war on hunters. Just as the ban on cougar hunting, and the introduction of Canadian Gray Wolves into Oregon have had damaging effects on our deer and elk herds, neutering hunters will further damage our ability to manage Oregon game. A quick review of the increased licensing fees for hunters and fishermen reveals the already high pressure against hunters in this State. USFS has increased the number of road closures and ODFW has SWAT teams. How much more blatant does it get?

    There is a host of available info on the net about this issue. I found it before I wrote the above to Brad Witt, District 31 Rep. Taku also had several links about lead and game animals. Write those Reps guys. The Demo-Nazis are winding in a whole ball of twine this year. They want the Western corridor to be their dominion. We are basically under siege. Reconquista.
     
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  13. U201491

    U201491 Well-Known Member

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    They have pretty much taken over the entire coast for their own little Moscow.
    Want to know how to get it back....... Get your hands dirty................
    You won't get it back any other way. BS and rhetoric won't do it.
     
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  14. IheartSig

    IheartSig Beaverton Diamond Supporter Diamond Supporter Platinum Supporter

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    What does that even mean? If he understands that reasonable people will disagree with him on the issue shouldn't that be an indication that its a bad idea? How does that even work?
     
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  15. PiratePast40

    PiratePast40 Willamette Valley Well-Known Member

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    Maybe now we'll start getting more 2A support from the hunting community. Let's face it, some hunters agree that registration is OK, and that "black rifles" aren't needed for hunting. With proposed legislation like this, and the standard BS answers from politicians, let's hope that it's becoming clearer to more people that this has nothing to do with safety, the children, or wildlife preservation. It's about control and political posturing. Nothing else.
     
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  16. tiggers97

    tiggers97 United States Well-Known Member

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    Hunting and fishing. First it will be lead ammo, next lead sinkers.
     
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    nehalemguy Vernonia Well-Known Member

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    Oh dear Lord! Where does this crap come from?

    ODFW does not have a SWAT team, much less teams. :rolleyes:
     
  18. tiggers97

    tiggers97 United States Well-Known Member

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    There is a movement among the forest service administrators to expand their reach by doing things like closing access roads (cannot do alone), telling miners they have to pull out all their gear at the end of the season (no authority here either), that they cannot use certain streams for mining or other recreation because they are navigable rivers with fish spawning areas (even when those streams are neither), or general law enforcement. Especially on federal lands.

    As for the forest service closing roads, they must have agreement from the Sheriff and county commission first. Otherwise it is an illegal closure.

    note: if you have received a ticket from an Oregon state forest service person on federal forest land, for not wearing a seat-belt for example, let me know as I know other people who are looking for the right case to use to get a court decision on the state force service jurisdiction on federal land.

    Ok. Back to the main focus of this thread. :)
     
  19. Classic

    Classic Federal Way WA Well-Known Member

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    The heck with it. Pull this crap in Montana, Wyoming, Texas or Oklahoma and you'll find your corpse is a shallow grave way the frick in the backwoods!
    Sadly folks this is the Demoncraps at work. It's time to open your eyes:mad:
     
  20. cookie

    cookie THE SOCIALIST STATE OF KALI - FORNIA Well-Known Member

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    The problem is caused by the stupid voters. more and more of the voters are stupid and that is from TV and the movies. Any body familiar with the Agenda 21 Treaty . Chase all the people off the lands and in to city where they will become stupid and easy to control.
     
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