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B.S. In Bend

Discussion in 'Legal & Political Archive' started by jim97701, Sep 30, 2014.

  1. jim97701

    jim97701 Bend Well-Known Member

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  2. Trothkin

    Trothkin Hillsboro, OR New Member

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    I thought OR didn't recognize concealed carry from other states? Or is this one of those LE exemption things that makes them better than us?
     
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  3. DieselScout

    DieselScout S Clackamas County Well-Known Member

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    LEO exemption passed with a bunch of post 9/11 Homeland Security stuff.
     
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  4. The Heretic

    The Heretic Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Sounds like the Bend PD is protecting "one of their own" even if he is from out of state. Sweep it under the rug. :rolleyes:

    How can we respect LEOs when stuff like this happens and they don't police their own? One set of rules for the "civilians" and another for the LEOs? :mad:

    Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

    I used to be a federal LEO and what this cop did is wrong in a number of ways even if there are "conflicting statements". He should not keep his job, he is a ticking time bomb IMO.
     
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  5. decklin

    decklin WA Well-Known Member

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    The double standard rears it's ugly head again.
    Cops shouldn't have a separate set of rules. As I peruse the various gun forums I've read many threads about cops pulling their guns on open carriers, other LAC's, suspected criminals that ultimately were innocent.
    If any of us pulled a gun like they do we'd all be arrested.
     
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  6. Blitzkrieg

    Blitzkrieg WA Well-Known Member

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    Fixed it for ya o_O
     
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  7. Norm0931

    Norm0931 Hillsboro, OR Sgt. Sheep Silver Vendor 2016 Volunteer

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    Would have been legally interesting if a CC had shot Tribble for drawing on them. Technically, under Oregon law, Tribble should be charged with reckless endangerment for being intoxicated with a firearm.
     
  8. balaperdida

    balaperdida eastern idaho Well-Known Member

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    Is there a photo? Is there an abandoned quarry near Bend?
     
  9. decklin

    decklin WA Well-Known Member

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    Huh?
     
  10. Morpheus

    Morpheus Columbia Gorge Anyway, back on the farm.

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    I don't care if there is an extension of conceal carry to LEO. That isn't a huge issue to me. What is serious issue, is the drunk while carrying. I believe that is a straight up felony if convicted in Oregon.

    That is the part which is unacceptable to me. No one, and mean no one, should be given a pass for carrying a firearm while drunk. You get behind the wheel, you are done. You carry while drunk, you are done.

    Go to jail, do not pass go, do not collection $200 dollars.
     
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  11. Norm0931

    Norm0931 Hillsboro, OR Sgt. Sheep Silver Vendor 2016 Volunteer

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    § 163.195¹
    Recklessly endangering another person

    (1)A person commits the crime of recklessly endangering another person if the person recklessly engages in conduct which creates a substantial risk of serious physical injury to another person.

    (2)Recklessly endangering another person is a Class A misdemeanor. [1971 c.743 §96]
     
  12. Norm0931

    Norm0931 Hillsboro, OR Sgt. Sheep Silver Vendor 2016 Volunteer

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    I'm honestly curious if the cop would have been charged with murder if he shot someone. On the flip side what would have happened to the guy on the ground if he would have been carrying and shot the cop on top of him. IMO the CA cop has punched you, jumps on top of you, draws a handgun, that's practically a text book example of reasonable fear of death.
     
  13. Morpheus

    Morpheus Columbia Gorge Anyway, back on the farm.

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    Keep digging, Recklessly Endangerment should be start of this guys crimes. There is another crime, if I remember correctly, related directly to being intoxicated while carrying a firearm.
     
  14. SOrez

    SOrez SOR Active Member

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    Retired or out of state LEOs should not have any more rights to carry than ordinary citizens.
     
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  15. The Heretic

    The Heretic Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Concealed carry, open carry, and all other gun laws should apply equally to LEOs and "civilians" - no exemptions.

    It doesn't matter that they are LEOs, the same laws should apply to them as they apply to us.

    You can bet then that there would be a lot more LEOs opposing gun control laws.
     
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  16. Oregonhunter5

    Oregonhunter5 2C IDAHO Well-Known Member

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    The one off China hat is. And your taking your life in your hands being out there. Used to be fun. Not so much anymore...
     
  17. Ben Beckerich

    Ben Beckerich NW Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Negative. There's absolutely no prohibition against drinking and packing.

    And shouldn't be.
     
  18. Morpheus

    Morpheus Columbia Gorge Anyway, back on the farm.

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    Uh, I didn't say drinking, I said drunk. As in intoxicated to the point where you are impaired. If you have a beer or two over the course of a few hours, you aren't drunk (Well some people might be, but most won't).

    That is no different than getting behind the wheel of a car while drunk.
     
  19. Ben Beckerich

    Ben Beckerich NW Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    I've been hammered with a gun on my hip, and I've been hammered behind the wheel of a motorvehicle. Hammered behind the wheel of a vehicle is WAAAAAAAY more hazardous than hammered with a gun.

    And no- no prohibitions against being absolutely bubblegum-faced blitzed and packing. Nothing. Though if a cop is dealing with you because you're hammered, you can bet he's gonna relieve you of your sidearm.
     
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  20. Norm0931

    Norm0931 Hillsboro, OR Sgt. Sheep Silver Vendor 2016 Volunteer

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    Any LEO should not have more rights than ordinary citizens, retired, out of state, or current employed. Being an LEO does not make you special or above the law.