You might want to stay away from a couple shooting spots out of town here, we found out today. ADDED: see link below for no shooting rules - there are no signs on the property. Earlier this year a friend took me to a decent shooting spot out of town in the mountains due west of Carlton in Yamhill county. There are a couple of well-established spots where people have obviously been shooting for years. A couple months ago I drove out there and founds orange signs posted- "Fire Danger - No Entry". Of course I turned around and found a different place somewhere else in a safe area for some .22 plinking. Today the signs were still there despite many days of torrential downpours, so we moved on to other areas and drove around exploring for a bit. We still couldn't find a good safe place to shoot .22 rifles, so as we drove back past the "Fire Danger" place we turned in to check it out. We knew there was no fire danger any more so were just going to drive in and take a look around, figuring the worst that could happen was someone telling us to leave. We pulled up to a shooting spot, got out and pulled out some sandwiches for lunch as we looked around. We were standing there eating when a Weyerhaeuser "security" guy pulls up and starts being a total "bubblegum" (isn't that the word here?) We were totally polite to him despite his attitude, saying we're sorry, Sir, we're just leaving. He parked his truck in front of us and told us No, you need to stay. There's a State Trooper just up the road and he will want to talk to you. I politely asked if he had any legal authority to detain us, and he admits No, not really, but you better stay or he'll chase you down. He made a big deal about writing our license plate down and roared off. Out of courtesy we waited for the Stater. He politely chewed us out, while admitting that we weren't doing anything wrong (if that makes any sense). He said the security guy was there to take down the signs and that the public is welcome on the property, but Weyerhaeuser discourages target shooting because of the mess. He was trying his best to put the scare into us and make us feel like criminals, all the while admitting that we were not breaking any laws of any kind. So if that's your place to shoot, be warned. There are no signs, not a "No Trespassing" or "No Shooting" sign at all, but it is apparantly a "no shooting" area. Sure, we should have not driven in past the rain-soaked "Fire Danger" signs that were gone an hour later (our bad), but they didn't have to treat us like criminals. I'm a law and order kind of guy, and a pretty staunch supporter of law enforcement. I have a couple life-long friends in law enforcement. I know it's a tough job, and I sure wouldn't want to do it. My gripe is being treated like a criminal when we weren't doing anything wrong. It just leaves a real bad taste in my mouth.