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First I am very sorry for anyone that has had to go thru this, it must be painful. Our own Oregon Senator Prozanski apparently even lost his sister to a similar crime. It's a sad thing to go thru, something we hope our families and and children never have to go thru.
I live in a town that in 2015 was hit by this as well USS so it touched me and many others.

But, as I sit here on a Friday afternoon, I look at all the victims some who have chose to rise up from their victimization and become a voice of change, using that First Amendment right we all have an God Bless America for that....
But.......being a victim that was shot, or if you lost someone you loved or cared about.
Doesn't make you and expert on the nations gun policies and laws. In fact looking at this
from a socially emotional point of view, is giving others a very irrational view of what rights are.
Its important to have passion and want change no mater what it is.
But when one is speaking about the rights of others to survive, and then telling others they can not,
when you yourself are touched by those that were unable to defend themselves? But you want the same for others to live with no defense, shows the irrational mind set of shooting victims.

DH
 
What do you mean? Their millenials, America owes them something.
The free, easy life.
Void of work, personal responsibility, or moral character.

And for all the immigrants, those once enslaved by masters, or even unjustly forced to follow the rules of society, we will add more taxes upon taxes to the evil colonialists caucasians to pay you reparations.
 
What do you mean? Their millenials, America owes them something.
The free, easy life.
Void of work, personal responsibility, or moral character.
And for all the immigrants, those once enslaved by masters, or even unjustly forced to follow the rules of society, we will add more taxes upon taxes to the evil colonialists caucasians to pay you reparations.

Yep, ........ I know every generation says these darn kids. But This was never this chaotic in over 150 years or so we are at a place right now that it matters, what you feel, or how it made you feel. or who made you feel that way. It can't be that your as dumb as a bang of rock and eating tide pods and snorting condoms.
Previous generations did stuff too sex, drugs etc, but they never said hey lets start a trend eating dogsh*t, or hey what if we cut or peckers off and crazy glue them back....! I know I am getting older, but damn this is not a trend in the new generation its a fricken mental illness and that I am dead serious. My post was to be tactful and explain in a nice way, sorry bad sheet happened, but you don't know about this bad sheet or how to avoid it so grab your jello pudding and sit the hell down.
 
Many anti voices have been effected by gun violence and have chosen to speak out against, look at Sly Stalion, he is about as rabbid an anti gun, anti 2nd person as it gets, because a good friend of his was murdered! Gabriel Giffords, used to be pro gun, then got shot in the head, now she and her hubby are ultra anti gun! These people are right to be pizzed, and yet they presume to speak for all of us, some of us have also suffered gun violence, the difference is the sheep mentality, these people would blame all gun owners, not the circumstances that led to the violent act! I witnessed a hold up where both the perp and victim were shot, did I become anti gun, Fork NO, I went out the next day and bought a handgun because that could have easiely have been me! This is what gets me, people refuse to take responsability for their own safety, instead relying on laws and Law Enforcement to protect them, and then when bad things happen, they blame every thing except their own malfeasance about self protection, and in doing so, they are actually insisting that no one else should have the means or the right to protect them selves!
Funny thing is, Nancy Pelosi really slipped up when she was grilled over what should be a reasonable expection of self defence, and her famous quip about pizzing ones self actually said she advocated fighting back, but she is perversely against guns, it makes absolutely no sense to advocate for self protection, and yet denied the one tool that greatly levels the field between perp and victim, like I always point out, God didn't make all men equal, Samual Colt did:D With a gun, a 90 pound scared female is now equal to a 200 pound thug bent on harming her, all because of a simple tool that projects greater power over life and death then the brute strength and intentions of that thug!

DH, you hit the nail on the head, the very people who should speak out pro gun are in fact the very victim's of violence, and yet something in their heads pops, and they become rabbid anti self protection, and in doing so, they advocate that every one else be made to suffer as they have, defenseless:eek::eek::eek:
The day they come to disarm me, is the day they do so, bullets first:cool: regardless of how I am viewed by the public at large, I am a Predator, I am a Hunter, I am a Protector, and I am a Defender, and no laws of men can or ever will change that, I do not recognize or answer to those laws of men that remove my God given right to life, my need and my ability to feed my family and self, my need to provide shelter for family and self, and all the rest, mankind's laws hold no sway over me when it comes to my natural God given rights, and I defy any one to try and take them from me! This isn't just about the 2nd, this is about God Given Rights to be and to live and to thrive!
 
There is a really good U-Tube video I saw the other day, how the ultra left are about to destroy the very socialest utopia they are trying to create! If I run across that video again, I will share it with the group, well worth the watch, explains several things many of us just don't see or understand!
 
one waffle house shooting few people killed BG stopped by guy with no gun but got away,
nother waffle house shooting a day latter BG stopped by good guy with a gun only person hurt was BG, you do the math.
of course we only heard about the BG who was stopped by the guy with no gun,,,
 
I see pictures like this all over the internet,

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and I want to ask them, "Then what am I supposed to protect my kids with?"
 
I just sit and wait .
These people have no idea what they are asking for .but I do I have read the history books watched the movies .
And have heard the storys from people who lived though it .
So I sit and wait and watch .lol and will never never never ever turn any of my gun over .
Never .COME AND TAKE THEM .
IF YOU CAN .
 
I see pictures like this all over the internet,

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and I want to ask them, "Then what am I supposed to protect my kids with?"

Exactly. The guys and gals with our sheriff's department do good work on a shoestring budget, but they are a long ways away if "it goes down". Ergo mom and/or dad have to take care of business in such an eventuality. Put another way, we protect our children with our guns.
 
Lock step, socialism.... they have manage to enslave and impose socialism for themselves all without any country leaders doing the suppressing.
 
I just sit and wait .
These people have no idea what they are asking for .but I do I have read the history books watched the movies . And have heard the storys from people who lived though it .
So I sit and wait and watch .lol and will never never never ever turn any of my gun over .
Never .COME AND TAKE THEM .
IF YOU CAN .

In history there are scary mirror images, of the rise and falls and there are many of them that started
just like this....
 
First I am very sorry for anyone that has had to go thru this, it must be painful. Our own Oregon Senator Prozanski apparently even lost his sister to a similar crime. It's a sad thing to go thru, something we hope our families and and children never have to go thru.
I live in a town that in 2015 was hit by this as well USS so it touched me and many others.

But, as I sit here on a Friday afternoon, I look at all the victims some who have chose to rise up from their victimization and become a voice of change, using that First Amendment right we all have an God Bless America for that....
But.......being a victim that was shot, or if you lost someone you loved or cared about.
Doesn't make you and expert on the nations gun policies and laws. In fact looking at this
from a socially emotional point of view, is giving others a very irrational view of what rights are.
Its important to have passion and want change no mater what it is.
But when one is speaking about the rights of others to survive, and then telling others they can not,
when you yourself are touched by those that were unable to defend themselves? But you want the same for others to live with no defense, shows the irrational mind set of shooting victims.

DH


You know, not all shooting victims wish to live as victims...................


Pro-Gun Parkland Student Kyle Kashuv: Why Wasn't I Invited To Speak At The March?
CNN cancels interview with pro-gun Parkland survivor after retweeting a post critical of host, reports say

'Arm the teachers': Columbine survivor now a pro-gun legislator

They Survived the Las Vegas Shooting. But They Don't Want Gun Control

Fort Hood (Hassan) Survivor: More Guns Would Have Prevented Second Shooting - The Truth About Guns

but most sheep wish to stay sheep. Besides that, the media is so against gun owners that they only give the anti's coverage and refuses to cover anyone pro-gun. Things might be totally different if we got equal coverage.


Ray
 
I see pictures like this all over the internet,

View attachment 454624

and I want to ask them, "Then what am I supposed to protect my kids with?"

You would think common sense and a mother's instincts would be a strong enough statement that we should protect the very rights and the tools with which to do the protecting with!:eek: But these people have convinced them selves that some how a disarmed populous makes their kids safer some how, only God can explain the utter stupidity of that thinking, and yet it continues to expand, and tin foil on tightly, the whole agenda of killing a bunch of our most precious children is simply unfathomable to those up of us who understand that our responsability for our own safety starts and ends solely with each of us!
 
You know, not all shooting victims wish to live as victims...................


Pro-Gun Parkland Student Kyle Kashuv: Why Wasn't I Invited To Speak At The March?
CNN cancels interview with pro-gun Parkland survivor after retweeting a post critical of host, reports say

'Arm the teachers': Columbine survivor now a pro-gun legislator

They Survived the Las Vegas Shooting. But They Don't Want Gun Control

Fort Hood (Hassan) Survivor: More Guns Would Have Prevented Second Shooting - The Truth About Guns

but most sheep wish to stay sheep. Besides that, the media is so against gun owners that they only give the anti's coverage and refuses to cover anyone pro-gun. Things might be totally different if we got equal coverage.


Ray
Yep they didn't want to be victims but where forced to be victims because of stupid law's put in place by people that have armed body gaurds with them 24/7 mmmmmmm
 
I don't have to watch the video I know who she is her mother and father where killed I Lubys cafe Shooting she left her gun in her car because it was a gun Free zone seen it a hundred times
 
He used his truck and two hand GUNS to kill 23 people mmmmmmm yes I said that right truck and two hand guns .
No AR 15 two 9 mm hand GUNs and a truck
 
You would think common sense and a mother's instincts would be a strong enough statement that we should protect the very rights and the tools with which to do the protecting with!:eek: But these people have convinced them selves that some how a disarmed populous makes their kids safer some how, only God can explain the utter stupidity of that thinking, and yet it continues to expand, and tin foil on tightly, the whole agenda of killing a bunch of our most precious children is simply unfathomable to those up of us who understand that our responsability for our own safety starts and ends solely with each of us!

They didn't convince themselves, they had plenty of help from government and media. For most of them are just sheep waiting to be fed.
If you can feed them you can control them.
 
I just sit and wait .
These people have no idea what they are asking for .but I do I have read the history books watched the movies .
And have heard the storys from people who lived though it .
So I sit and wait and watch .lol and will never never never ever turn any of my gun over .
Never .COME AND TAKE THEM .
IF YOU CAN .

When I went to school this stuff was apart of the history classes. My father ,uncles and their buddy,s' were almost all ww2 vets. This movement looks like the information I received from the class room and the vets I grew up around.
 
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Many anti voices have been effected by gun violence and have chosen to speak out against, look at Sly Stalion, he is about as rabbid an anti gun, anti 2nd person as it gets, because a good friend of his was murdered! Gabriel Giffords, used to be pro gun, then got shot in the head, now she and her hubby are ultra anti gun! These people are right to be pizzed, and yet they presume to speak for all of us, some of us have also suffered gun violence, the difference is the sheep mentality, these people would blame all gun owners, not the circumstances that led to the violent act! I witnessed a hold up where both the perp and victim were shot, did I become anti gun, Fork NO, I went out the next day and bought a handgun because that could have easiely have been me! This is what gets me, people refuse to take responsability for their own safety, instead relying on laws and Law Enforcement to protect them, and then when bad things happen, they blame every thing except their own malfeasance about self protection, and in doing so, they are actually insisting that no one else should have the means or the right to protect them selves!
Funny thing is, Nancy Pelosi really slipped up when she was grilled over what should be a reasonable expection of self defence, and her famous quip about pizzing ones self actually said she advocated fighting back, but she is perversely against guns, it makes absolutely no sense to advocate for self protection, and yet denied the one tool that greatly levels the field between perp and victim, like I always point out, God didn't make all men equal, Samual Colt did:D With a gun, a 90 pound scared female is now equal to a 200 pound thug bent on harming her, all because of a simple tool that projects greater power over life and death then the brute strength and intentions of that thug!

DH, you hit the nail on the head, the very people who should speak out pro gun are in fact the very victim's of violence, and yet something in their heads pops, and they become rabbid anti self protection, and in doing so, they advocate that every one else be made to suffer as they have, defenseless:eek::eek::eek:
The day they come to disarm me, is the day they do so, bullets first:cool: regardless of how I am viewed by the public at large, I am a Predator, I am a Hunter, I am a Protector, and I am a Defender, and no laws of men can or ever will change that, I do not recognize or answer to those laws of men that remove my God given right to life, my need and my ability to feed my family and self, my need to provide shelter for family and self, and all the rest, mankind's laws hold no sway over me when it comes to my natural God given rights, and I defy any one to try and take them from me! This isn't just about the 2nd, this is about God Given Rights to be and to live and to thrive!

When the disarming starts, don't wait for them to come to you. Get with A LOT of your buddies and show 'em why we have a 2A - go on the offense.

 

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