Attended a Project Appleseed event this weekend...wow

[Joe Link]

For anyone else who has attended an Appleseed event and wants to leave a review, here's the link to their guide entry here: Project Appleseed

 

[rick benjamin]

Appleseed's history textbook

 

[Joe Link]

Appleseed's history textbook

Thanks for the link. I'm skeptical I will actually receive a used copy for $0.36 + $3.99 shipping, but I'm gonna give it a shot

 

[Garg]

So, you took the Colt? Did it get ruined?? LOL

 

[NWGlockgal]

Got a gun picked out? I was just pursuing their site, and can't decide which gun I would prefer bringing. None of my 10/22 type guns have iron sights. I'd have to build one up, which isn't exactly a drawback...

Probably M&P 15-22. I do have a 10/22 also but it doesn't really have a way to attach a sling (although the leader said something could be cobbled together) and I hate the sights, can't see them.

 

[NWGlockgal]

Thanks for the link. I'm skeptical I will actually receive a used copy for $0.36 + $3.99 shipping, but I'm gonna give it a shot

You'll get it. I've ordered books for .25 to .75 plus the 3.99 shipping and always received them.

 

[etrain16]

Probably M&P 15-22. I do have a 10/22 also but it doesn't really have a way to attach a sling (although the leader said something could be cobbled together) and I hate the sights, can't see them.

I looked at the Appleseed website today - there was a notice on there that, for now, due to some kind of safety concern, the M&P 15-22 is temporarily not allowed at these events.

 

[Goosebrown]

You REALLY want that patch by the end of the first day. I means something and so does a score of 207. Nice shooting sir.

 

[NWGlockgal]

I looked at the Appleseed website today - there was a notice on there that, for now, due to some kind of safety concern, the M&P 15-22 is temporarily not allowed at these events.

Oh no! Not happy, just bought two 10 round magazines so I could use it.

 

[etrain16]

Oh no! Not happy, just bought two 10 round magazines so I could use it.

Here is where I saw it: Appleseed Schedule

Maybe @Kimber Custom could weigh in on the 'safety concern'?

 

[308]

Probably M&P 15-22. I do have a 10/22 also but it doesn't really have a way to attach a sling (although the leader said something could be cobbled together) and I hate the sights, can't see them.

I love me the 10/22, but the MP 15/22 is almost as perfect as my Glox

 

[308]

I looked at the Appleseed website today - there was a notice on there that, for now, due to some kind of safety concern, the M&P 15-22 is temporarily not allowed at these events.

Id like to know what the concern is??? The only weak point on the 15/22 is the trigger pins slipping out and causing a double tap. KNS anti rotating pin set solves that problem

 

[v0lcom13sn0w]

joe, your shooting went from good to outstanding in my opinion! good work! i have been shooting guns for over 20 years. 22 to be exact. i would like to go to one of these shoots someday to see how much i dont actually know also! sounds like a blast

 

[etrain16]

Just out of curiosity, @Kimber Custom, what is the schedule on Appleseed days (start/stop time), and is there a lower age limit for kids (my daughter is 9)? My wife and daughter sound like they're interested in attending perhaps at next April's event - we can't do the December event.

 

[rubberband]

According to the firearmsblog.com w/r/t the 15/22 it's due to several reports of out of battery discharges & a runaway string

BREAKING: S&W M&P 15/22 Rifles BANNED at Appleseed Events Due to Run Away and Out of Battery Firing - The Firearm Blog


There's thread over on RFC
15-22 banned at Appleseed - RimfireCentral.com Forums

 

[308]

According to the firearmsblog.com w/r/t the 15/22 it's due to several reports of out of battery discharges & a runaway string

BREAKING: S&W M&P 15/22 Rifles BANNED at Appleseed Events Due to Run Away and Out of Battery Firing - The Firearm Blog


There's thread over on RFC
15-22 banned at Appleseed - RimfireCentral.com Forums

Thats what I thought. The trigger pins are longrt than std AR pins. They have a tendancy to shift in the poly reciever and one may never realize the have moved and the gun will double tap. The fix is the KNS anti rotating pin set which locks the pins in place. One must make sure to order the longer pins labled for 15/22 only.

Problem solved.

 

[orygun]

Since I attended my first Appleseed 2 day event I've been trying to get people to understand how much is to be gained from this course. I have only attended the Known Distance events and will attend more as the time allows. This is the very best way to learn your rifle and yourself.
FYI, no AR 15 for me. I shoot a bolt gun with a blind magazine. Partly because of that I have not earned my "Rifleman" patch, but I have a Daniel Morgan patch. I'll be back and you can bet yer last nickle I'll get that rifleman patch!

 

[Ironbar]

Just out of curiosity, @Kimber Custom, what is the schedule on Appleseed days (start/stop time), and is there a lower age limit for kids (my daughter is 9)? My wife and daughter sound like they're interested in attending perhaps at next April's event - we can't do the December event.

Etrain, this is taken directly from the Appleseed website:


How old do kids need to be to come to an Appleseed?

We leave this up to the parents. If your child is old enough to safely handle a rifle by himself/herself and endure a long day of instruction he/she is welcome to attend and encouraged. Be aware that some State laws require that a child be a certain age to handle rifle.

Typical schedule is a start time of 8:30ish to 9 depending on if all participants have arrived, and stop time of 4:30 to 5pm on both days.

 

[Ironbar]

It's incredible how much you don't know you don't know

After a couple of years of @Kimber Custom offering to comp my entry fee, and a couple years of me saying I'd try to make the next one, I finally made it out to an Project Appleseed event this past weekend. I felt the need to do a short write-up to let others know about my experience.

I didn't really know what to expect when I signed up for the class, only that the course would supposedly teach me how to shoot more accurately and that there was a historical component to it. At the beginning of the course we were told about the Project Appleseed organization, went over a bit of history, and were given basic instruction on the format of the event. It was after this that I realized how much more this was than simply an instructional course. Not only did we learn how to shoot more accurately, we also learned what it takes to be a rifleman. As someone who loves our history, the 2A, and the constitution, I found the (unexpected) historical information on the revolutionary war period fascinating. Honestly, I'd probably pay just to listen to the stories

A confession here; my knowledge of and experience with the AR15 platform is comically lacking. Those who assume the owner of NWFA must be an expert should have seen me this weekend! Wanting to improve my familiarity, I opted to take an AR15 rather than a 22. I'm happy I did, as I now feel much more comfortable (and accurate) with the AR15 platform, but I do feel I might have got more from the class if I'd have brought a 22 without the distraction of the recoil. After this weekend my thoughts have shifted from tactical rifles and accessories to accuracy and proficiency with a 10/22 (which I'll bring to the next event). I want that Rifleman's Patch.

I'm not sure if it was the number of rounds (400), the transitions from position to position, that I've never fired from prone in my life, or that I must be out of shape, but I can't remember the last time I was this tired and sore (I consider this a good thing!). Don't let this scare you though, each and every part of the class was optional. People with medical conditions or those who didn't want to do a particular drill were more than welcome to sit out, and this wasn't conveyed in a passive-aggressive manner at all. Every volunteer there (their staff is all volunteer) was friendly, helpful, and safe.

Over the course of two days I went from this (83 points):

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To this (207 points):

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Clearly there is much work to be done, but that improvement is astounding.

One point which I and others in attendance couldn't get over was the cost - only $60 for two full days of instruction! This has to be the best training bargain out there. In short, it was a fantastic experience and I can't wait to go again.

Joe,

It was a pleasure meeting you this weekend! Your shooting scores from that first AQT to the last are nothing short of phenomenal! Well done! I'm looking forward to seeing you at another Appleseed. Try to make the one in April at the Chehalem Valley Sportsman's Club in Dundee. I think that's my favorite one these days!

 

[Joe Link]

Joe,

It was a pleasure meeting you this weekend! Your shooting scores from that first AQT to the last are nothing short of phenomenal! Well done! I'm looking forward to seeing you at another Appleseed. Try to make the one in April at the Chehalem Valley Sportsman's Club in Dundee. I think that's my favorite one these days!

You as well! Thanks for the kind words. Unfortunately as the day progressed my scores regressed, surely due to fatigue. When you guys said Appleseed is hard on the mind, body, and equipment you weren't lying! I'll make note of that April event.