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Nit "unless". When
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Nit "unless". When
So kak shockwave braces are still legit for now?
Here is the opinion fwiw. It's somewhat dated and I'm no lawyer, just passing along the info. https://blog.princelaw.com/2012/12/...gth-of-an-short-barreled-rifleshotgun-sbrsbs/
I don't think anyone can answer this question with any degree a certainty until one were faced with consifcastion as a legal reality.What happens when they come for those too ??
It is not just you, I suspect English has become re-invented. It is like reading Shakespeare again, I am bloody lost!I still fail to see how there illegal am I missing something? So basically asking someone to dumb it down for me.
I think u are really onto something there (Btw, I parsed the quote above just to focus on that one item,not to ignore the other things u said). It seems to me there is an incentive for poeple to cause you to have an emotional reaction and that is why they post this stuff. Not saying the subject is not important but being aware of their incentive is important I think....Two problems I see.
1. Somewhat click-baity headlines....
This is exactly how big Pharma gets away with making bad, legal drugs. Send and have the scientist test/ evaluate one drug and if approved - okay, but every other similar modification or similarity does not need to be re-evaluated. Change the chemistry and you can do a lot more worse stuff to people, which has/ does happened.SB made a brace SB15 and got an atf letter saying it was a brace not a stock,
SB makes 23 some odd other "brace's" but never summited them for ATF determination as a brace
ergo all the other "brace's" other then the SB15 are stocks... making your hand gun an SBR if it is on the weapon
Of which Randy Weaver was neither. He detested the Aryan Nations skinheads and he was a white separatist, not a militia member or white supremacist.I doubt that was location oriented, IIRC it was because the powers that be were interested in shutting down skinhead and militia types.
Thx for the clarification. I think ur right. The chance of that ever becoming an issue is about zero. But like lawyers do, they point out any possible negative which is their job. Much appreciated clarification. I didn't read it thoroughly enough.As point
Ok - but that only applies IF you make it into a "destructive device" (rifle over .50 caliber, etc.), not if you change the caliber from 5.56x45 to .300 BLK.
Form 1 Form 1 Form 1. Just submitted mine last night. And sold my last pistol brace last weekend. Just in time
Not a SBR, but I know someone who has gone through the process of selling his silencers. Not much different than buying one from online sources like Silencershop. Both parties must pay a transfer though if in different states. If in the same state, you would hold onto the NFA items while the buyer processes the form 4. Once approved, the buyer would meet you at an FFL like any gun sale these days and perform the transfer after filling out a 4473. If out of state, you would transfer via a form 4 ($200) to a local dealer, they then form 3 it to a dealer in the other state, then the buyer performs a form 4 ($200) to obtain after being approved.Thx for the clarification. I think ur right. The chance of that ever becoming an issue is about zero. But like lawyers do, they point out any possible negative which is their job. Much appreciated clarification. I didn't read it thoroughly enough.
I also found the article below helpful re sbrs. Keep in mind though the source is selling gun trusts for sbrs.
Does anyone here have any knowledge of how long or difficult it is to sell an sbr? I just read the one source that talked about the delay and paperwork.How Do I Change the Registered Configuration of My Short-Barreled Rifle? - Gun Trust Guru
You have filed an ATF Form 1 application make an existing firearm into a short-barreled rifle (SBR). The ATF finally approves your Form 1 application and mails the approval document (the "tax stamp") to you. Your tax stamp allows you to convert your firearm to the specific configuration of...www.guntrustguru.com
Also relating to sbr potential drawbacks, a recent thread talked about how the travel from state to state requirement can be met with a once per year letter to Atf. I don't know any details on that, just mentioning it for accuracy re state travel fwiw.
Really good info thx! That's what I recall from the one article I read was that the big bugaboo is the waiting time for the form 4, similar to buying a silencer. I couldn't recall the details. Great help thx!Not a SBR, but I know someone who has gone through the process of selling his silencers. Not much different than buying one from online sources like Silencershop. Both parties must pay a transfer though if in different states. If in the same state, you would hold onto the NFA items while the buyer processes the form 4. Once approved, the buyer would meet you at an FFL like any gun sale these days and perform the transfer after filling out a 4473. If out of state, you would transfer via a form 4 ($200) to a local dealer, they then form 3 it to a dealer in the other state, then the buyer performs a form 4 ($200) to obtain after being approved.
SBRs would need the same treatment of being sold as an SBR.
If being sold as a Rifle. You would simply write a letter to the ATF with all of the information on the rifle letting them know you are removing it from its title 2 classification (look online for templates) and reconfiguring it to a title 1 configuration. Then you can sell it as a title 1 rifle just like any regular firearm. Be it the buyer doesn't mind having your maker engraving on it when it was a title 2 firearm.
Traveling between states, that are legal to possess NFA items, IE no traveling to California, is s as easy as filling this formhttps://www.atf.gov/file/11361/download
Hey. I aim to please. Thanks for your approval.Great job registering your weapons comrade! Makes it sooooo much easier to confiscate them from the populace. Thank you for your cooperation!
I had a gut feeling on this months ago so, got rid of anything brace related including my Shockwave. Biden and his demons are going to do what they want including shoving this rigged election down our throats!
I didn't hand them anything. I got rid of some stuff I figured I'd have to sooner or later but, what you don't know, is what I replaced it with.True, but I see no reason to hand them the ramrod.