ATF Proposes 2021R-05 Must Read

[wired]

The cassette provides housing or structure for the trigger. If the cassette is visible from the exterior of the complete assembled weapon it would meet the definition. The bolt carrier would also meet the definition. The upper receiver would also meet the definition. Maybe you will be right to assume they will only use this proposed definition to address 100% machined AR lower receivers but I believe they will take it much farther.

You can believe that if you feel like believing it. Doesnt make it true.

 

[arakboss]

You can believe that if you feel like believing it. Doesnt make it true.

The proposed definition is there for you to read.

 

[wired]

The proposed definition is there for you to read.

That's great but they are talking about the lower receiver holding the trigger because they screwed up 60 years ago and called the lower the serialized part of the AR. Your interpretation of their proposed rule doesn't mean cassette triggers will be considered a firearm in and of themselves. Lowers will be firearms. That's a hit for FALs and HKs and most guns that use a lower that holds the trigger group. The trigger group as in the HK that is always in a cassette. The lower will be a firearm. Not what's inside the lower. That's just tin foil nonsense.

 

[arakboss]

That's great but they are talking about the lower receiver holding the trigger because they screwed up 60 years ago and called the lower the serialized part of the AR. Your interpretation of their proposed rule doesn't mean cassette triggers will be considered a firearm in and of themselves. Lowers will be firearms. That's a hit for FALs and HKs and most guns that use a lower that holds the trigger group. The trigger group as in the HK that is always in a cassette. The lower will be a firearm. Not what's inside the lower. That's just tin foil nonsense.

Okie dokie. Maybe they will reverse their decision on the SHTF50 uppers.

 

[arakboss]

And for anybody wondering whether the ATF would consider classifying one weapon as two firearms, the last sentence in this paragraph should clear that up.

 

[wired]

Okie dokie. Maybe they will reverse their decision on the SHTF50 uppers.

There was a different reason for that .

 

[arakboss]

There was a different reason for that .

The reasons are endless at the ATF/DOJ. They make it up as they go.

 

[wired]

The reasons are endless at the ATF/DOJ. They make it up as they go.

It had more to do with the lower not acting as the ammo feeding device any more.

 

[arakboss]

 

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[American123]

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People are so used to this monopoly of force and restricted rights that it seems "weird" when it is legally challenged.

 

[RicInOR]

Summary of Final Rule 2021R-05F | Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives

Definition of “Frame or Receiver” and Identification of Firearms On April 11, 2022, the Attorney General signed ATF final rule, Definition of “Frame or Receiver” and Identification of Firearms, amending ATF’s regulations by removing and replacing the regulatory definitions of “firearm frame or...

www.atf.gov

 

[JohnnyMac]

More info on what the AFT has coming down the pipe this year regarding receivers and more...

 

[Toxic6]

The "individual right" to self defense concept didnt come about until much later some would argue it didnt really get ensconced into law until this century.

Pretty sure when they wrote the constitution they never would have thought you'd need to explain defending yourself or others from harm on a personal level. I mean they had dueling pistols, so going to go out on a limb and say they accepted self defense as a given as well. Agree that the laws on self defense are definitely newer in the scheme of things

 

[Toxic6]

You think maybe they're (aft) doing all this nonsense to slow/halt the record sales of guns/parts/Ammo…knowing it will end up challenged at some point in court but in the meantime causing a bubblegumshow?