at least 33 mass shootings so far?

[tac]

Well someone woke up on the wrong side of the pond

Just stating the figures, Sir. I didn't make 'em up.

 

[Knobgoblin]

I try to inject humor.

My take on the statistical assault isn't that it's insulting, merely exhausting.

 

[tac]

I try to inject humor.

My take on the statistical assault isn't that it's insulting, merely exhausting.

Ah, right. In order to maintain a degree of harmony and not upset too many of you guys at the same time, I've pulled my 'offending' posts, in the certainty that anybody can look up the figures the same way that I did, and make their own call.

 

[Wombat of Doom]

Ah, right. In order to maintain a degree of harmony and not upset too many of you guys at the same time, I've pulled my 'offending' posts, in the certainty that anybody can look up the figures the same way that I did, and make their own call.

Always keep in mind our figures are quite often cooked. I have seen unsubstantiated reports of being hit by deflected bbs from an air rifle counted in mass shootings last year. (I wish I was joking)

 

[Explorer1]

Just MORE PROOF the laws the People's Republik of Kalifornica have enacted are simply FAILURES. But the methods of the Nanny State when they fail is to implement more failures in yet another attempt to control the sheeple.

 

[Knobgoblin]

It's a long standing tradition for "developed " nations to hi-light failings among their global contemporaries. I think the media does a fine job of misinforming all of us , no matter where we live.

 

[Gunbuggy]

Well let's remember that a "mass shooting" is defined as a shooting in which more than 2 people are killed or injured by a firearm.

These types of shootings happen almost every weekend across the country in ghetto crime ridden neighborhoods (in states with the strictest gun control might I add, but they don't talk about that)

By definition, I would believe that number.

But you're only going to hear about the ones that make the headlines. Angry white male shoots up a school / grocery store / concert etc etc. I've followed many mass shootings that started out with major news coverage, only to find out later that the person was either a non-white person or a crazy radical left wing psycho. Then the news story disappears.

 

[Explorer1]

Well let's remember that a "mass shooting" is defined as a shooting in which more than 2 people are killed or injured by a firearm.

These types of shootings happen almost every weekend across the country in ghetto crime ridden neighborhoods (in states with the strictest gun control might I add, but they don't talk about that)

By definition, I would believe that number.

But you're only going to hear about the ones that make the headlines. Angry white male shoots up a school / grocery store / concert etc etc. I've followed many mass shootings that started out with major news coverage, only to find out later that the person was either a non-white person or a crazy radical left wing psycho. Then the news story disappears.

Sorry, the definition is not 2.

mass shooting, also called active shooter incident, as defined by the U.S. Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), an event in which one or more individuals are "actively engaged in killing or attempting to kill people in a populated area. Implicit in this definition is the shooter's use of a firearm." The FBI has not set a minimum number of casualties to qualify an event as a mass shooting, but U.S. statute (the Investigative Assistance for Violent Crimes Act of 2012) defines a "mass killing" as "3 or more killings in a single incident."

Mass shooting | Definition, Statistics, Weapons, & Locations

Mass shooting, as defined by the U.S. Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), an event in which one or more individuals are “actively engaged in killing or attempting to kill people in a populated area. Implicit in this definition is the shooter’s use of a firearm.” The FBI has not set a minimum

www.britannica.com

In the 1980s, the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) defined mass murderer as someone who "kills four or more people in a single incident (not including himself), typically in a single location" (Krouse and Richardson, 2015). In 2013, Congress defined mass killing as a single incident that leaves three or more people dead (Pub. L. 112-265, 2013).

Mass Shootings in the United States

There is no standard definition of what constitutes a mass shooting. Media outlets, academic researchers, and law enforcement agencies frequently use different definitions when discussing mass shootings, leading to different assessments of the frequency with which mass shootings occur and about...

www.rand.org

But we live in a day in which we change definitions to fit the agenda, hence the ever changing (made up) term "assault weapon."

 

[Gunbuggy]

Sorry, the definition is not 2.

mass shooting, also called active shooter incident, as defined by the U.S. Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), an event in which one or more individuals are "actively engaged in killing or attempting to kill people in a populated area. Implicit in this definition is the shooter's use of a firearm." The FBI has not set a minimum number of casualties to qualify an event as a mass shooting, but U.S. statute (the Investigative Assistance for Violent Crimes Act of 2012) defines a "mass killing" as "3 or more killings in a single incident."

Mass shooting | Definition, Statistics, Weapons, & Locations

Mass shooting, as defined by the U.S. Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), an event in which one or more individuals are “actively engaged in killing or attempting to kill people in a populated area. Implicit in this definition is the shooter’s use of a firearm.” The FBI has not set a minimum

www.britannica.com

In the 1980s, the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) defined mass murderer as someone who "kills four or more people in a single incident (not including himself), typically in a single location" (Krouse and Richardson, 2015). In 2013, Congress defined mass killing as a single incident that leaves three or more people dead (Pub. L. 112-265, 2013).

Mass Shootings in the United States

There is no standard definition of what constitutes a mass shooting. Media outlets, academic researchers, and law enforcement agencies frequently use different definitions when discussing mass shootings, leading to different assessments of the frequency with which mass shootings occur and about...

www.rand.org

But we live in a day in which we change definitions to fit the agenda, hence the ever changing (made up) term "assault weapon."

Ah crap. The 2 I was referring to was actually a 3 it looks like. But thanks for that because it looks like whether it's 2 or 3 or 10 the fbi doesn't state a number.

 

[Explorer1]

Ah crap. The 2 I was referring to was actually a 3 it looks like. But thanks for that because it looks like whether it's 2 or 3 or 10 the fbi doesn't state a number.

I didn't realize the FBI had dropped a number, I remembered it being 4. But I am sure the various organizations use different numbers to support their agenda.

 

[Gunbuggy]

Sorry, the definition is not 2.

mass shooting, also called active shooter incident, as defined by the U.S. Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), an event in which one or more individuals are "actively engaged in killing or attempting to kill people in a populated area. Implicit in this definition is the shooter's use of a firearm." The FBI has not set a minimum number of casualties to qualify an event as a mass shooting, but U.S. statute (the Investigative Assistance for Violent Crimes Act of 2012) defines a "mass killing" as "3 or more killings in a single incident."

Mass shooting | Definition, Statistics, Weapons, & Locations

Mass shooting, as defined by the U.S. Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), an event in which one or more individuals are “actively engaged in killing or attempting to kill people in a populated area. Implicit in this definition is the shooter’s use of a firearm.” The FBI has not set a minimum

www.britannica.com

In the 1980s, the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) defined mass murderer as someone who "kills four or more people in a single incident (not including himself), typically in a single location" (Krouse and Richardson, 2015). In 2013, Congress defined mass killing as a single incident that leaves three or more people dead (Pub. L. 112-265, 2013).

Mass Shootings in the United States

There is no standard definition of what constitutes a mass shooting. Media outlets, academic researchers, and law enforcement agencies frequently use different definitions when discussing mass shootings, leading to different assessments of the frequency with which mass shootings occur and about...

www.rand.org

But we live in a day in which we change definitions to fit the agenda, hence the ever changing (made up) term "assault weapon."

Yeah those darn definition changes. It's no longer a master bedroom it's a "primary bedroom". It's no longer a mother it's a "birthing person". Its no longer homeless its "houseless". It's no longer a pedophile it's a "minor attracted person"

 

[Knobgoblin]

WINNER!! ^^^^

 

[Gunbuggy]

WINNER!! ^^^^

You know when they say the best way to prevent a catastrophic fire is for everything to burn?

We need a controlled burn on this country and fast.

 

[Ruger Rich]

When I was in college I need a math filler class for the degree I was after.

I selected "Math Statistics". That was an eye opener. Given a set of numbers

pertaining to a thing or situation you can make out almost any thing you want.

 

[RVTECH]

Yeah those darn definition changes.

Yea and ya can't ask for a 'pair of dykes' anymore as well - it needs to be a pair of 'diagonal side cutting pliers' !

 

[Explorer1]

When I was in college I need a math filler class for the degree I was after.

I selected "Math Statistics". That was an eye opener. Given a set of numbers

pertaining to a thing or situation you can make out almost any thing you want.

Yup, figures lie and liars figure.

 

[Gunbuggy]

Yea and ya can't ask for a 'pair of dykes' anymore as well - it needs to be a pair of 'diagonal side cutting pliers' !

Ha ha ha. I'm an electrician and we make this joke every day.

 

[Koda]

My take is the US does have more, true, mass shootings than other countries, but I contend that other countries are not immune to mass shootings. Canada is a recent example, their gun laws havent stopped them.
There are other differences that affect this outcome like social, geographical, and economic metrics. We have a lot of neglected kids and adults in the US.

 

[RVTECH]

My take is the US does have more, true, mass shootings than other countries, but I contend that other countries are not immune to mass shootings.

Nor do we get accurate reporting from other countries as well.

Any guesses as to the actual number of mass shootings in say, Mexico?

Several years ago I used to work with a guy who was from a small town in inner Mexico and one time he showed me pics on his phone of how the ENTIRE town had been denuded of nearly all residents due to cartel intervention and murders.

 

[Andy54Hawken]

If 4 , 400 or 4000....or whatever magic number one wishes to use is "mass shooting:" number....
It don't really matter....the end result will be the same :

People will have died....
Anger , frustration and the like will happen....
What if's...finger pointing and the blame game will continue....
Laws , bans and such will be proposed and more than likely be passed....
All of which do nothing to stop the next mass shooting...and only affect otherwise law abiding gun owners.
Then it happens again...So...
Repeat all of the above.

If one wants the same results..then continue to do as one has been doing...
If one wants different results...then do something different.
Andy