Assault Weapons Ban Vote on House Floor

[CamoDeafie]

Betsy's own voting record on gun bills in Oregon is abundantly clear that she is for 2A, fir gun owners. Kotek's record is as clear that Kotek is against 2a, against gun owners. Drazan's record is a big fat nothing. We don't know. She had been noticeably noncommittal, dodging questions, and she has said "I don't believe in additional gun laws"... but nothing about repealing those gun laws already on book in Oregon.

 

[Garg]

Well, according to her recent interview with Lars, she is not as 2A as she has been in the past. There is in fact a smear campaign against her right now touting her past 2A decisions, for all the good that did....

 

[Ura-Ki]

Drazen is a RINO for starters, and her policy on Abortion will kill her chances at anything! Have you seen what she wants to do?
Se wants to outright BAN abortions and basically flip this states policies 180 toward what several of the southern states have, that will cost her big time!
Drazen's stance on our rights, specifically our 2nd rights are up for sale, she flips and flops so much that it's impossible to know where she stands, or what she will do with the slightest pressure from outside, let alone all the cash "Donations" from New Yawk Billionaires!
Think of all the other issues this state faces, all the damage K8 and Co. have done, all the Damage the Dems have done and will continue to do while she is in office, and worst, how much they can push her to signing their brand of crap, don't let the "R" in front of her name fool you, she is anything but!


Be careful what you wish for, Drazen is a RINO and we know what we can expect, a sell out!

Kotex is the absolute worse, you thing Gaven Neusome is BAD, She is much worse, take Kathy Hochel, Gaven, Gretchen, and Jay and silent bob and roll them all together and Tina is what you get, Not a good look for OryGun!

We have a golden opportunity here with Betsy, lets take advantage of that! The Alternate is not something I want to think about, this state will fail spectacularly with ether of those other two at the helm!

#RunBetsyRun!

 

[Ura-Ki]

Well, according to her recent interview with Lars, she is not as 2A as she has been in the past. There is in fact a smear campaign against her right now touting her past 2A decisions, for all the good that did....

Betsy is playing the Long Game here, she knows she needs to tread carefully around the whole gun topic, there are way too many Kens and Karens out there who are anti gun for her to risk a more solid position, but we have her solid voting record to back her, and while we risk a certain amount of unknown with her on this, we flat know the story on the other two!

I'm betting we put Betsy in office, we see a much more pro 2nd alignment from her, and she has the recent SCOTUS rulings to back her! Think about this, She takes a soft line on guns NOW, knowing she has Miller, Heller, and now Bruen backing her, so at the least she can claim her "Hands are Tied" against all the Kens and Karens who pitch a fit when they demand action and Betsy says NOPE, SCOTUS says what's what and I cant go against it!

 

[Garg]

Well, vote for whomever you would like, but I am done with democrats in our government. Betsy has been there 21 years, and what do we have to show for it.??

edit: Also it isn't just about who is the governor. It's also about the legislator...

 

[Ura-Ki]

Well, vote for whomever you would like, but I am done with democrats in our government. Betsy has been there 21 years, and what do we have to show for it.??

What has Betsy done? She shut down some of the most draconian Environmental legislation ever brought forward, Remember "Cap and Trade?"
She has blocked or voted solid NO enough to make her record SOLID RED, despite the "D" in front of her name in years past!
Are you willing to risk Drazen as a known RINO here, with the state future survival at stake, I sure as hell wont!!

 

[Garg]

What has Betsy done? She shut down some of the most draconian Environmental legislation ever brought forward, Remember "Cap and Trade?"
She has blocked or voted solid NO enough to make her record SOLID RED, despite the "D" in front of her name in years past!
Are you willing to risk Drazen as a known RINO here, with the state future survival at stake, I sure as hell wont!!

Well, IMO she is a carrer politiction. Drazen is not. I will go with the latter.

 

[Cavedweller]

Betsy has no chance to win. At 18%, even if all the undecided voters swing her way, she's will still lose. A vote for Betsy is a wasted vote. Like voting for Ralph Nader for president. The priority has to be to beat Kotek. What do you want, a RINO or a commie? The only way to beat Kotek is to vote Drazen.

 

[Garg]

Betsy has no chance to win. At 18%, even if all the undecided voters swing her way, she's will still lose. A vote for Betsy is a wasted vote. Like voting for Ralph Nader for president. The priority has to be to beat Kotek. What do you want, a RINO or a commie? The only way to beat Kotek is to vote Drazen.

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[nammac]

Well, IMO she is a carrer politiction. Drazen is not. I will go with the latter.

Drazen wouldn't lead the republicans in a walkout last legislative session, let the dems walk all over Oregonians…

No thanks. A vote for Drazen is a vote against your civil and constitutional rights, she's a RINO through and through…

 

[nammac]

Drazen wouldn't lead the republicans in a walkout last legislative session, let the dems walk all over Oregonians…

No thanks. A vote for Drazen is a vote against your civil and constitutional rights, she's a RINO through and through…

Furthermore, Drazen is unelectable with her "outlaw abortion" stance…. Don't be fooled by flawed polls….

 

[Cavedweller]

Drazen wouldn't lead the republicans in a walkout last legislative session, let the dems walk all over Oregonians…

No thanks. A vote for Drazen is a vote against your civil and constitutional rights, she's a RINO through and through…

So throw your vote down the toilet. Good plan.

 

[nammac]

So throw your vote down the toilet. Good plan.

Voting doesn't matter in this state anyway, with fraudulent mail in ballots…

Kotek will be the next Governor, the fix is already in. Oregon is the "democrat machine", even has Chicago beat…

 

[Garg]

Voting doesn't matter in this state anyway, with fraudulent mail in ballots…

Kotek will be the next Governor, the fix is already in. Oregon is the "democrat machine", even has Chicago beat…

So... just imagine for a minute, if it were not true. IMO I think a lot of Oregonians are sick are tired of this stuff. I know I am.
Also would love to buy you a beer, or coffee sometime to discuss.

 

[CamoDeafie]

Important distinction; Betsy is not running as an Independent. She is running as a Non-affiliated. What does this mean?

1. She is not beholden to any of the National Parties nor the minor Third Parties like Constitution Party, Independent, Green, Socialist, or whatnot.

2. She is not restricted to 3rd Party voters. Basically, anyone can vote for her, whether they are D, R, 3rd/minor or even not.

Right now the two National Parties are gunning against her, pulling out as many stops as possible to prevent her from winning... why is that? Well. Because right now, there are more Non-affiliated voters than there are registered Democrat voters, which still outnumbers registered Republicans.


As for polling... remember back in 2016; pretty much every media site had Hilary in the lead by double digits? Just something to think about

Betsy's from Scappoose, which is in Columbia County.. which recently (2020) went ahead and became a 2nd Amendment Sanctuary County. Betsy also has the endorsement of Oregon State Sheriffs' Association, Oregon Chiefs of Police Association, Fraternal Order of Police Oregon Lodge, ORCOPS, Eugene Police Employees' Association and Crime Victims United of Oregon.

So, law enforcement groups endorses her, most notably the Oregon State Sheriff's Association which last I remember, were largely pro-2A....

Again, something to think about.

 

[jayR]

Back to the Federal level gun ban initiative.. Here's the official word -
whitehouse.gov

 

[Cavedweller]

Back to the Federal level gun ban initiative.. Here's the official word -
whitehouse.gov

I like the part where he tries to hit on a 9 year-old girl.

And this:

"And for those brave, right-wing Americans who say it's all about keeping America — keeping America as independent and safe: If you want to fight against a country, you need an F-15. You need something a little more than a gun. (Laughter.) No, I'm not joking. Think about this. Think about the rationale we use — that's used to provide this. And who are they shooting at? They're shooting at these guys behind me." (Turns to police officers in the bleachers).

 

[jayR]

Almost the same breath.. Complete 180.

You know, we're living in a country awash with weapons of war, weapons that weren't designed to hunt — were designed to take on an enemy. There — that's what they're designed to do. For God's sake, what's the rationale for these weapons outside of a warzone? They inflict severe damage.

 

[ma96782]

Because….
The Constitution means nothing to a Tyrant.

Aloha, Mark

 

[Cavedweller]

Back to the Federal level gun ban initiative.. Here's the official word -
whitehouse.gov

"When I was recently in Uvalde — I almost hesitate to say this, with some of the kids in here — you know what some of the parents had to do? Supply DNA. Supply DNA. Because AR-15s just rips the body apart. Could not identify — could not identify the body. And a 20-year-old kid can walk in and buy one? DNA to say, "That's my baby." What the hell is the matter with us?"

"Do you realize the bullet out of an AR-15 travels five times as rapidly as a bullet shot out of any other gun, five times — is lighter — and can pierce Kevlar?"

It'll blow your lungs out kid.