AS VAL & VSS - Russian Commandos Carry Suppressed Rifles That Can Shoot Through Body Armor

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  1. RicInOR

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  2. clearconscience

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    No but I want one!
     
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    Shoot them first, then pick up their gun. I wouldn't mind having one of those so that's my game plan.
     
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    During my Army tour, I remember the big hoopla back then in the 80's-90's about the "ballistic knife" used by the Spetsnaz that could defeat body armor.... :rolleyes:
     
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    Haha I was back on the border back then. We had Star Wars and the M-1 Abrams and they had the spring knife.
     
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    That is one nasty rifle those Ruskies have! We found a cash of them in A-Stan, Russians Prolly forgot them! We played with them burning up all the ammo that was found with them! We ended up watching them getting run over with an M-1 tank! Not the most accurate for any distance, but with in 100 meters, sure a nasty surprise to any one on the wrong end! I would say get one if you can find one!
     
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    Heard about them a while ago. I want them as much as I want a Dragunov SVU. But we will never see them here due to stupid laws (922r being one example).
     
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    Looks pretty safe to me, no bayonet lug, no pistol grip, no barrel shroud, why, there isn't even a shoulder thing that goes up! And it has a wood stock so it's for hunting, right? :rolleyes:

    Seriously for a second, I have a colleague who has a Five-seven AR upper and a Silencerco Sparrow suppressor on it. That Five-seven with SS109's will do a number on ballistic vests and there's that 50-round mag on top. I'll wager even the non-LAP rounds would void a vests' rating pretty quick too. It's a pretty sweet setup.
     
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    But the integrated suppressor. Think of the chilluns. :eek::D
     
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    The thing kinda reminds of an old Papa-Shu.
     
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    I'm not as excited about the gun as I am the cartridge.
    I think a copy of this thread ought to be included here:

    Pistol Caliber versus Rifle caliber for carbines (https://www.northwestfirearms.com/threads/pistol-caliber-versus-rifle-caliber-for-carbines.222210/)

    I would have a semi-auto carbine (Mini30 anyone?) throated to shoot 147gr 9mm slugs and .358 rifle slugs if I could, and have a deer slayer and a subsonic thumper in the same carbine.
    The rifle is pretty much un-reachable, for me, but I'd love to play with that cartridge.
     
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    I Was thinking more on the lines of re-chambering an AK and possibly lengthening the mag well forward. The upper dust cover and safety are similar to an AK's. Then maybe adapt a PSL stock to work.
     
  15. Doc In UPlace

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    It's quiet so's it don't wake the chilluns. More safer!
     
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