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Article in WillametteWeek slams Oregon gun laws

Discussion in 'Legal & Political Archive' started by JackFrost, Aug 3, 2011.

  1. JackFrost

    JackFrost Central Oregon Active Member

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    This is an article written by James Pitkin and is on page one of the WillametteWeek.

    He starts of by describing how easy it is to purchase "illegal" firearms in the state, more specifically portland. The Gun

    Once again it shows us that our so-called 2nd Amendment freedoms are ALWAYS being attacked! Sad.:huh:
     
  2. tkdguy

    tkdguy Portland, Oregon Silver Supporter Silver Supporter

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    This article appears to be a written against the Portland Police Bureau and the Mayor's Office suggesting that both are inept. Read the closing statements by the author.
     
  3. Cougfan2

    Cougfan2 Hillsboro, OR Well-Known Member

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    Yeah. I heard the interview he did on KXL this morning driving to work. He would like FTF sales to be made illegal in OR. Absolutely no balance in the interview. :thumbdown:
     
  4. the puma

    the puma Oregon City Active Member

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    Honestly, I couldn't make it more than a couple paragraphs before I stopped reading. The bias was, to me, so overwhelming as to make the story unreadable now. The following is what I think based on what I read and what I assumed the rest of the article to be about: So, using this idiot's logic, making FTF sales illegal will somehow change things? Criminals will still find a way to get a hold of guns, and a ban on FTF sales will make it harder and more expensive for the average Joe to get a firearm. I guess the gangster (likely felon, illegal to have a gun in the first place) will have an epiphany and decide to go through an FFL to sell to another gangster. Riiiiiiight
     
  5. deadeye

    deadeye Albany,OR. Moderator Staff Member

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    So keeping it in his closet where someone could break in and steal it and put it back on the street is OK? Thats doing alot to keep it out of the hands of the wrong people. Forgive my laziness to look it up but him knowing the guy that took him around to buy a gun is a convicted felon and now would have readily access of it is OK? Definately a slanted article written by a investigativly innept reporter with an agenda. Criminals will always find ways to get a gun no matter what laws are put in place, hence the moniker of criminal.

    This guy has no clue whether he bought a stolen gun or one that has been used in a violent crime but is waiting till the next Sammy turn in, what a smart man he must be. Didnt even think or know of the laws he may have broken himself in doing this or the possible risk the friendly felon was in being included in the whole thing.
     
  6. JackFrost

    JackFrost Central Oregon Active Member

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    I heard the interview on the way to work on KXL as well and what really bothers me about these people is their lack of logic and utter stupidity on the issue of gun control.
    Criminals will ALWAYS break the law(hence the name, CRIMINAL) no matter what law,ordinance,rule,ban or any other concoction our enemies in public office can dream up to pass. It is so frustrating that a complete fool like this James Pitkin character can call for more regulation and tougher gun laws while being clearly ignorant of what the real problem is. I am so sick of morons like this climbing on their soapbox and spewing this crap!Where is the logic?Where are the people that can refute this garbage? Sorry for the rant,I am fed up with dolts like this getting a voice.:bawling:
    Back to work now:drunk:
     
  7. Cougfan2

    Cougfan2 Hillsboro, OR Well-Known Member

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    I went to the Willamette Week website and read the comments on the article. They pretty much overwhelmingly called this guy an idiot.
     
  8. JackFrost

    JackFrost Central Oregon Active Member

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    Well that makes me feel a little better!
     
  9. ZigZagZeke

    ZigZagZeke Eugene Silver Supporter Silver Supporter 2015 Volunteer

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    I was one of them (Zeke).
     
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    JGRuby Portland Oregon New Member

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    I have been there a couple of time myself

    James Ruby
     
  11. What in the world made this guy think that it would be a good idea to troll the streets for a gun he can buy from a thug? Freaking window licker.
     
  12. Swedish K

    Swedish K SW Washington Moderator Staff Member

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    How is it that people like this reporter can't get it through their thick skulls that you can't legislate an individuals morality - the laws simply place punishment on things society deems inappropriate. Is it that they have drunk so much from the pool of political correct kool-aid that there isn't any room for critical thinking or personal responsibility? Think the reporter should go back to whatever school he graduated from and ask for his money back...
     
  13. EZLivin

    EZLivin SW of PDX Well-Known Member

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    Yes.


    Most schools don't teach the old style of journalism anymore (reporting the facts). The new journalism consists of learning to disguise editiorializing as "news" in order to persuade and sway public opinion towards an agenda.
     
  14. Simonpie

    Simonpie Portland Active Member

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    It is interesting it took him 3 hours to complete what appears to be a completely legal gun purchase. He's not a felon, it was FTF by Oregonians, and with the price above current rate the gun probably wasn't stolen. He should have gone to a gun store and saved himself 2 hours and 40 minutes.

    I also thought the descriptions of gang culture stuff on uninvolved bar patrons was odd. Do people in droopy pants only get 1.5 ammendments?
     
  15. SPU

    SPU Southwest Oregon Old Fart

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    Stories like this sell papers and/or attract viewers/listeners, thus increase advertising. The First Amendment in action (or running amok depending on your point of view). Journalism has come down to screamers and pretty faces earning their bosses more money from sponsors. Sigh, what ever happened to the likes of Cronkite, Morrow, Huntley or Brinkley?
     
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    marty8587 NE Portland Active Member

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    Would you expect unbiased journalism out of a rag like W.W.?
     
  17. raftman

    raftman Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Read the article, and it's pretty easy to catch the BS. First, the author states that criminals are apparently able to access guns despite it being against the law, and then later suggests the Oregon should tighten its laws to the same extent as say California or New Jersey. So his solution to the problem is doing more of what doesn't work. He notes that FTF transactions are illegal in CA, but neglects to note that California has around double the rate of violent crime that Oregon does.
     
  18. michaels

    michaels oregon Active Member

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    Nice article :rollingeyes:

    Where the heck is "gang territory" ? I only understand portland and it's neighborhoods.

    Then there's this one.....

    Is it because a truck driver in milwaukie is most likely to be white?

    This whole article kind of makes one think that buying guns from black people is illegal.

    The best part is, Nothing (other than the alleged smell of marijuana) was illegal about this purchase.

    It all sounds edgy though, being a white dude from se portland going with a black former gang member to buy a gun off the street.

    This is another good one from the article:

    I truly wish that being a seller at the farmers market was as hassle free as doing a legal FTF gun sale. Just saying.

    My absolute favorite pairing of sentences is this one though:

    I'm not quite sure how limiting number of guns, type of gun, mag capacity, licensing or bgc would stop suicide by gun. (that's if you believe that 80% statistic. I do)

    Yep. Read it. it's a horrifying article.
     
  19. Tangent123123

    Tangent123123 Battle Ground Active Member

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    Yep, if limiting mag capacity makes that much of a difference in an attempted suicide, they were probably doing it wrong in the first place.

    Just sayin'....
     
  20. drew

    drew OR Well-Known Member

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    I'd suggest more legal FTF gun sales at farmers markets as the solution.

    The article was horrendous. Maybe the seller didn't ask him what he was going to use the gun for because he didn't look like a thug. I've never been asked what I'm going to do with a gun when I've bought one. I also would never ask that question when selling. If I felt the need to, the sale would be off.