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AR/SBR/Supressor

Discussion in 'NFA Weapon Discussion' started by LWYM425, Apr 22, 2011.

  1. LWYM425

    LWYM425 Snohomish county Member

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    All this talk about the newly found legality of silencers has got me thinking about a SBR/silencer combo for fun/target practice/general defense.

    would an AR pistol with silencer be just as good since SBR's aren't legal yet? What about getting a legal length AR that can be converted to SBR after the bill passes?

    I like the idea of:
    portability, conceal-ability, indoor training (around corners/hallways) for HD, round count, precise shots up to 100yds

    Can some one give me an idea of how long the overall length of a legal barreled AR with silencer would be compared to SBR?

    I'd love some pics :rolleyes:

    I don't even know what calibers I should limit myself too...
     
  2. caden08

    caden08 washougal Member

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    Cocktailer is your suppressor guy!
     
  3. coctailer

    coctailer Portland, OR/Hastings, MI/Vancouver,WA I run with scissors.

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    Thanks Caden!!
    I am working on an AR with a 10" barrel and a silencer permanently attached with an overall length of 16" for the WA dudes.

    I'm hoping to have it available in a few weeks.
    The design work is done, and tests on the baffles give a sound that is on par with the top silencer manufacturers.

    It is now down to paperwork and money.
     
  4. LWYM425

    LWYM425 Snohomish county Member

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    Can't wait to see it! do you have any of your other pieces posted???
     
  5. coctailer

    coctailer Portland, OR/Hastings, MI/Vancouver,WA I run with scissors.

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  6. LWYM425

    LWYM425 Snohomish county Member

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    Yes. I do like that.

    how short will you go with a barrel (that has a suppressor attached) before there are concerns about losing too much velocity?
     
  7. coctailer

    coctailer Portland, OR/Hastings, MI/Vancouver,WA I run with scissors.

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    10.5"
    That is the only length available for the integral rifle, and the SBR.
     
  8. caden08

    caden08 washougal Member

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    I'll eventually get a can.... But I'm having a hard time convincing the wife.


    Love the rifle! Do you have an approx price for them yet?
     
  9. coctailer

    coctailer Portland, OR/Hastings, MI/Vancouver,WA I run with scissors.

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    Whew...........the BIG question.

    I have no idea yet.

    As soon as I have a demo that is suitable for human consumption I can toss numbers around.

    Should be very soon though. Weeks I imagine.
     
  10. caden08

    caden08 washougal Member

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    Man and I just dumped my tax return on a AR build... Wanna trade :p

    You really need to get a dedicated forum on here for your business
     
  11. Nwcid

    Nwcid Yakima and N of Spokane Well-Known Member

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    Well here is one version of an integral AR. This is an OA Glock lower with an SRT silencer on it. Had this gun about 3-4 years now. It was my second silencer purchase, first was .22 can. I have owned and shoot silencers now for over 5 years in way SHOCKING.


    DSC_0010.jpg
     
  12. caden08

    caden08 washougal Member

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    That's sexy! I
     
  13. Abiqua

    Abiqua Oregon Active Member

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    Fixed it for you. I don't know anyone who stopped at one, even those guys who said, "I just want one." :)

    But, be careful! Because you'll turn into one of those guys that never wants to shoot unsuppressed.

    And THEN you turn into one of those guys that thinks it's really annoying that everybody else's guns make so much noise. :)
     
  14. caden08

    caden08 washougal Member

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    Your right I do want 1 for the 9mm and the 5.56.. And then there's the .22 and the .40, o and the 7.62...
     
  15. Nwcid

    Nwcid Yakima and N of Spokane Well-Known Member

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    Why do people still buy .223 cans? It only works on a couple of calibers. .30 cal cans work on most .30 cal guns and under. They are only slightly heavier and slightly longer in most cases.
     
  16. Rammit

    Rammit Bothel Member

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    Or just bump it up to a 338 and your covered for everything, Ive seen 338lm rated cans for around a grand. get a 338 and a 45, and you can shoot 223, 308, 300wm and 338lm as well as 45 and 9mm all for around 2k with stamps
     
  17. Dan-Dee Sales Inc

    Dan-Dee Sales Inc Sweet Home, Oregon, United States Active Member

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    what about us lefty's? Any blowback to worry about?
     
  18. nubus

    nubus Guest

    Weight and length were the exact reasons I got both.
    But true, the 308 works very well on the 223 with added weight and length.
    If I did it again I would get the 308 first.
     
  19. Nwcid

    Nwcid Yakima and N of Spokane Well-Known Member

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    I understand but length is usually less then 1" difference and weight is usually within 5oz. Of course we all think different but to me that is not worth the cost of another can and the tax. If I really wanted more then one can to have on more then one gun I would have 2, 30 cal vs a .223 and a .30. FWIW I have 2 of the same .22 cans and another .22 that is going to be used on an integral set up, so I do understand that part.
     
  20. Abiqua

    Abiqua Oregon Active Member

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    I bought an M4-2000 to use on my SBR PS90. I didn't want the extra length or weight on a 19" rifle and don't have any other use for a .30 cal can.