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AR Butt stocks for hunting

Discussion in 'Rifle Discussion' started by mjbskwim, Mar 20, 2011.

  1. mjbskwim

    mjbskwim Salmon,Idaho Well-Known Member

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    I have my Stag 24" stainless bull barrel upper coming.I have my G&R LPK coming and I already have my DPMS lower in my little bear paws.

    (I have investigated these parts to no end,and got what I felt was perfect for me and my budget,so please,lets not start a name brand war)

    Anyway.I will be using this for some bench rest and for some yote hunting.
    What have y'all found to be the best kind of stock for good balance comfort and accuracy?

    Is the standard A1 that bad or would one of those fancy adjustables be worth the $250?

    Not a big fan of the "tacticool" ones.Not sure I care if it extends or not.

    Thank you sirs.
     
  2. DirectDrive

    DirectDrive Vancouver, WA Member

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    A 24" bull is going to be a heavy rig.
    You usually see these with with Magpul UBR or PRS if only to offset the nose-heaviness.
    Not a rig that you will like to pack up and down canyons.
    A good, padded sling would be a must.

    If it were mine and I had some spare jing I would look at having it fluted fore and aft.
     
  3. Unka-Boo

    Unka-Boo Milwaukie Active Member

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    I'm a big fan of my VLTOR, awesome cheek rest and adjustable. You can always add weight to the "battery" compartments on the side to help balance the gun out.

    When I had my 20" combo going:

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  4. Nwcid

    Nwcid Yakima and N of Spokane Well-Known Member

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    With the 24" gun you really need some weight in the back to help balance it out and this is never going to be a "light" gun. I had an Ace on it for a while and that was a bad choice the gun was too nose heavy.

    I have a UBR on one of my 16" guns and really like it but for what you are talking about the PRS is a much better choice.

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  5. DirectDrive

    DirectDrive Vancouver, WA Member

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    Yes, the new A5 would be a nice stock for that rig.

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  6. mjbskwim

    mjbskwim Salmon,Idaho Well-Known Member

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    Ya know I was hoping you guys had some CHEAP choices.
    I do love these though

    Thanks
     
  7. Unka-Boo

    Unka-Boo Milwaukie Active Member

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    What's cheap?

    Are you keeping the rifle buffer tube?

    If so:

    Vltor Rifle Modstock (ARM-2CG) - Foliage Green / Clubfoot - A2

    Or what ever color....

    Otherwise, you'll have to change to a carbine buffer set up.
     
  8. RockKrawler

    RockKrawler Gresham Member

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    Or go with the A2 stock and add some weight to help balance it out.
    4th item down,will give you an idea.Competition Parts & Accessories
    Maybe you can make your own,or know some one that can help.
     
  9. NoAim

    NoAim Hillsboro, OR Active Member

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    The answer to your original question is "no, the standard A1/A2 are not bad". I prefer them over a lot of other stocks. The rifle buffer has more weight than most carbine buffers and helps smooth the recoil. Since they are fixed, they don't wobble. And since it's a 24" bull, it's not like you're looking for something compact and lightweight. If you move to a carbine type stock, you're now talking cost for the new tube, heavy buffer, new spring, and new stock shell.

    My suggestion would be to stick with what you have. Worst case, add some weight to the buttstock to get the balance out.
     
  10. mjbskwim

    mjbskwim Salmon,Idaho Well-Known Member

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    That's closer to $100 total cost,so me thinks this is the way to go first.
    The ACS is pushing a close second (price wise) and the PRS waiting at the block for funds.
     
  11. Nwcid

    Nwcid Yakima and N of Spokane Well-Known Member

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    I guess I misread you question the first time. I thought you didnt want a standard stock.

    There is nothing wrong with the standard A2 stock a all. I would go A2 over A1. The A1 is shorter and harder to find.
     
  12. Ben Beckerich

    Ben Beckerich NW Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    sounds like the A2 is your option... why didn't you just go with it? if this is gonne be a non-packed, prone-only gun for varmint, i'd get an A2 and put a lead weight in the trapdoor. make it as ***-heavy as possible.

    i have a modstock on my huntin' AR, and will likely be putting a MOE on it before next season. weight is my main concern. doesn't even have backup sights on it <tactical gasp>. but there's no way to make a 24" bull gun "light," so you might as well bank on smoothing out recoil.
     
  13. i8asquirrel

    i8asquirrel Keizer, oregon Member

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    A very good and Highly experienced friend of mine once told me as we spoke of stocks "There are alot of stocks out there,some for shooting,some for carrying and exiting from vehicles,some for looking cool. try a few different ones at the range andrun what works for you."
    I have lowers with many types, My Varminter has an Ace Standard length skeliton on it.. I have a shorty with a CAA multi position and adjustable cheek rest. and another with an A2 that has a 1" extension to make it fit me correctly. **** I have a pistol AR with basically no stock..try a few and see. most people at the range ,at least at the one I go to would be glad to let you fire thier toys.
     
  14. DirectDrive

    DirectDrive Vancouver, WA Member

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    Here's a guy who likes to run heavy barrels for varmints, deer, speed goat, etc.
    Some interesting wildcats as well :
    Welcome to the Dtech Superstore
    They run a mix of stock types.
     
  15. madcratebuilder

    madcratebuilder Ardenwald, OR Well-Known Member

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    On a budget get the A2. Want to keep the weight down and have the extra cash get the Vltor Emod A5. Don't care about weight or money get a PRS.

    Vltor Emod A5 on a 24" Grendel.

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  16. mjbskwim

    mjbskwim Salmon,Idaho Well-Known Member

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    Yeah I like that one in the top picture

    And that Vltor is a lot like the Magpul ACS .Those two are right in the price I was hoping for right now.And they are pretty comfortable.
    Nobody withing 100 miles has this stuff in stock to touch.
    I read one thread that said you'll buy a few before your done.
    Then do I have to start more builds to go with the extra stocks?
    hehehe


    BTW madcratebuilder,whats the optics on that rifle?
     
  17. RallySoob

    RallySoob Salem, OR Active Member

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    I would run a rra stage two trigger with a bull bbl. Or any after market trigger geared towards a nice smooth pull. The gi stg one is wretched. The mention trigger kit can be found for 120$...i know u got a lpk already but i just cant make sense of having an accurate setup without a good trigger. Cant beat the rra stg 2 as far as most bang for the buck...i know this isnt what u wanted to hear but if you try it you will never want to shoot a std gritty trigger again. Congrats on the build GL

    I vote for an A1/A2 stock for accuracy, cheap price, weight and less prone to any failures
     
  18. madcratebuilder

    madcratebuilder Ardenwald, OR Well-Known Member

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    It's a 20 year old Hakko 5-15X56 I picked up for $50. Hakko made the 5-15X56 M1A scopes for Springfield Armory. This Hakko has a unusual option, change the reticle color by turning a ring. Far from a high end piece of glass, it does repeat and glass is OK. I would compare it to a Bushnell 3200 Elite. Saving for a Nightforce, and saving....
     
  19. mjbskwim

    mjbskwim Salmon,Idaho Well-Known Member

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    Yeah I kinda figured the trigger would be changed soon.I bought the LPK for all the parts and to get shooting.
    And you like the 2 stage other than a 1 stage at about 3-4#s ? I'm sure I'll end up trying both.

    Stock then optics then shooting then changes
     
  20. The Cheese

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    IF you are looking for a little cheaper stock with a cheek rest, BOHICA arms sells one that is like the ACE skeleton but has an adjustable cheek rest. IIRC its in the $150 range with out buffer, spring and tube. Worth a look anyway.