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ar 15 trigger

Discussion in 'Maintenance & Gunsmithing' started by x1hunter89, Mar 5, 2012.

  1. x1hunter89

    x1hunter89 gresham oregon Active Member

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    so im looking to get a nicer trigger my lpk is the stock spikes. ive read that instead of buying a 200plus 2 stage that sometimes you can get the jp springs and it makes the trigger feel alot better. anyone have any experience with their springs and does it really make a difference? is their another way to make the trigger feel smoother and not as heavy?
     
  2. deadshot2

    deadshot2 NW Quadrant WA State Well-Known Member

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    The basic design of an AR trigger has it's problems. Creep and overtravel are built in in copious amounts. I have one AR that I've performed the "50 cent trigger job) which consists of adding a 1/4" set screw beneath the screw that secures the grip. It holds the trigger at minimum sear engagement but still feels like a Military trigger. There are spring kits that reduce the overall pull. Replacing the spring under the disconnector as well as the trigger and hammer springs can make a little difference but the best way is to just drop in a re-designed trigger assy. I prefer Timney for Utility but Jewell would be my second choice.

    You can go cheap but chances are you won't notice much difference. I've found the best results, short of changing the trigger assy is to smooth all the surfaces that move when the trigger is pulled. That includes polishing the trigger pin and bore of the trigger itself. Jewelers rouge and a lapping process works great. Just be sure to clean extensively when done.
     
  3. coop44

    coop44 Tacoma ,WA Well-Known Member

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  4. Speedsteel

    Speedsteel Oregon Member

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    You can get a good two stage for less than 200.00, Rock River or Jard more like 120.00-150.00 retail at Brownell's, and drop in a reliable safe trigger.
    Ditto Re-working the stock parts, usually not much improvement for time energy spent.
     
  5. RICKRWS

    RICKRWS VANCOUVER Active Member

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    So do you have to buy a trigger kit then add a 2 stage trigger? I am just starting to build my first AR15 and learning what to buy. Any info will help. Is a 2 stage Trigger that much different than a trigger that comes in a Kit? Thanks Again.
     
  6. deadshot2

    deadshot2 NW Quadrant WA State Well-Known Member

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    For me personally, I can't see any real benefit to a 2-Stage. I like a trigger that just fires when I press it with the appropriate amount of pressure. My best firearms have single stage triggers and very little travel at all.
     
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  7. fry

    fry pacific north west Active Member

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    bill springfield in colorado. check his web page.
     
  8. RICKRWS

    RICKRWS VANCOUVER Active Member

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    ????
     
  9. iamme

    iamme Lane County Well-Known Member

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    If you want to spend $$ do it right and go Geiselle. I've done JP springs and they are an improvement, as well as the set screw mod. They both help and can turn a junky heavy LPK trigger into something bearable.
     
  10. twowheels

    twowheels portland, OR Active Member

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    I love my geissele it transformed my ar.
     
  11. RICKRWS

    RICKRWS VANCOUVER Active Member

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    How much do they sell for and what is the best place to buy it.
    Is it a kit or just a trigger? Thanks
     
  12. twowheels

    twowheels portland, OR Active Member

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    There are a range of triggers available from geissele at a range of prices. I got an ssa-e, which is a complete drop in. It was a simple install. I think it was about $200 although some of their triggers are more and some are less. You can get them directly from geissele or from the usual suspects. It is a wonderful trigger, well worth the cost.
     
  13. RICKRWS

    RICKRWS VANCOUVER Active Member

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    Well this is my first build and I think I will stick with a basic trigger kit.
    $200 is money I need for my upper.
     
  14. Mister_E

    Mister_E Oregon Active Member

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    Bill Springfield - www.TriggerWork.net

    Rock River Arms National Match 2-Stage Trigger Kit for AR-15 - Surplus Ammo

    Rainier Arms, LLC™ | Browse | Trigger Groups | Geissele Enhanced Combat Trigger - SSA-E

    Rainier Arms, LLC™ | Browse | Trigger Groups | Geissele Combat Trigger - SSA / SSF

    Rainier Arms, LLC™ | Browse | Trigger Groups | Timney Single Stage Match Trigger

    I have mostly Geissele FCG's in my AR's. But I also have RRA 2-stage NM triggers, Wilson Combat TTU, Timney, LMT. They all work, and work smoother than a stock trigger group. That's not to say that the stock trigger in your LPK won't smooth out over time. Replacing the springs with JP springs will help, over a stock set. If you are going to try the 'do-it-yourself' home trigger work, be very careful how much material you remove and from where.
     
  15. x1hunter89

    x1hunter89 gresham oregon Active Member

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    awesome thanks guys