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Appleseed....facts...FAQs

Discussion in 'Education & Training' started by Wheeler44, Jan 3, 2010.

  1. Wheeler44

    Wheeler44 SW Washington Member

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    Hello ...My name is Wheeler44 and I'm an Appleseed instructor....this thread is here to answer any questions about Appleseed that you may have..

    What? You say that you haven't heard of Project Appleseed?

    Then go to RWVA.org and learn all about it..


    Wheeler44
     
  2. trainsktg

    trainsktg Portland OR Well-Known Member

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    A good program...:thumbup:

    Keith
     
  3. twoclones

    twoclones Tri-Cities, WA Well-Known Member

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    We want to go to our first Appleseed this spring. My girlfriend and daughter each have a Ruger 10/22 without a sling. The RWVA website says to bring a "GI Style Web Sling." What exactly is this? Any particular width, with or without a pad on it, etc? What do we NOT want in a sling?

    Is my AR-15 a good choice for me to use at Appleseed? How about a sling for it? I'm guessing a single point sling would not be what's recommended...
     
  4. speelyei

    speelyei Willamette Valley Active Member

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    are there any unannounced Appleseeds in Oregon for 2010?

    I first heard of the Appleseed when I was trying to find new sights for my 10/22. I didn't like the stock sights, but I wanted to shoot iron sights. A few google searches and I came across an "appleseed trainer" rifle, and it was exactly the sort of configuration I was wanting. Here's a picture of mine:


    twoclones: the sling I have on mine is just a war surplus cotton M1 sling. I bought two of them from sportsmansguide for $25 with shipping. I am pretty sure it will work fine.
     
  5. Wheeler44

    Wheeler44 SW Washington Member

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    Speelyai... that's a nice trainer ya got there...and yep that's a GI web sling...and click adjustable peep sights.. together they make a perfect set up to to learn the fundamentals of rifle shooting...

    There is a lot of information about training rifles on the RWVA forum...Different makes and models and set ups to adapt the rifles geometry to the shooters geometry..

    twoclones...expect to shoot about 500 rounds at a full two day Appleseed..Most folks find success by shooting a good portion using a trainer like Speelyai's for most of the shoot and then applying what they've learned with their centerfire..

    But I've seen lots of folks shoot the whole course with centerfire..I even saw a guy in Wyoming shoot the whole thing with a Rem. 30-06 bolt action..

    If you can adapt and persist, you can do anything..

    W44
     
  6. twoclones

    twoclones Tri-Cities, WA Well-Known Member

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    OK. I understand the sling now and I've been planning on putting better sights on the 10/22s.

    As far as sighting in the rifles, RWVA.org says, "You should function-test your rifle and, if possible, have it zeroed for 200 yards; but if you don't or can't, adjust your sights so your group prints 3" above point of aim at 100 yds, and mark your sights with paint, magic marker, or fingernail polish."

    Is this even possible with a .22lr? If not, what should I be doing to get my girl's rifles ready?
     
  7. Wheeler44

    Wheeler44 SW Washington Member

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    Depending on the range, most of the shoots are mostly at 25 yards..Only moving to a greater distance as the shooter progresses..If the range and time allow...There is a lot to absorb in two days.... So to answer your question..Sight the .22's at 25 yards POI=POA

    For those that may not know..We recently held a shoot on a Military Base for deploying troops..Pretty exciting to be helping deploying troops that way...

    Wheeler44
     
  8. branchbuster

    branchbuster Albany Active Member

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    Why aren't there any scheduled in Oregon?
     
  9. itgoesboom

    itgoesboom Hillsboro Member

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    I don't have any unscoped rifles, would that be an issue?
     
  10. Wheeler44

    Wheeler44 SW Washington Member

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    Branchbuster; We are trying to get some scheduled in OR...We could always use help though...

    Itgoesboom; Lots of folks ( especially those of us with "more experienced" eyes ) use scopes... Having an adjustable objective scope (down to 25 yards or meters) helps, but is not necessary.

    W44
     
  11. unionguy

    unionguy Portland Active Member

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    I attended one in August and it was great.

    However, I would strongly recommend having your rifle sighted-in already, there really wasn't time allowed for that. And yes, have a sling, it is used A LOT.

    I really enjoyed RL, our instructor, and his assistants...knew their stuff but weren't arrogant either.
     
  12. MountainBear

    MountainBear Sweet Home, OR Well-Known Member

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    I'd love to see one scheduled in Central Oregon...
     
  13. aslinged

    aslinged Southern Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Wheeler, what specific things can we do in the way of help to get an Appleseed program out to Oregon this year?
     
  14. Wheeler44

    Wheeler44 SW Washington Member

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    Specifically, we need venues....If you know of a friendly range PM me the info....Or if you know a rural land owner that is willing to host we can provide insurance...

    We are talking to Tri-county right now....If you are a member there, call the board of directors and show your support.

    We are also working with a propoerty owner at Seal Rock..He has a great place..Room for distance shooting and room to camp..It needs some improvement....We will get a work party together...PM me if you are interested in helping with that.

    When a private landowner dedicates a range for us (like in Castle Rock) we are able to schedule more shoots..

    Basically...If we find a place to shoot..RWVA does the rest..

    W44
     
  15. branchbuster

    branchbuster Albany Active Member

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    Have you tried ARPC?
     
  16. MountainBear

    MountainBear Sweet Home, OR Well-Known Member

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    How about COSSA?
     
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    Monkeyman Portland, OR Member

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    Done. That would be most excellent!

    I am planning to attend the next membership meeting to voice my support.
     
  18. Wheeler44

    Wheeler44 SW Washington Member

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    Ok.. Ok.. I can see now that we have a good number of good people that want Appleseed....I'm going to round up a volunteer to help coordinate canvassing ranges in OR.... I'll see if one of the local RWVA folks can help with it...

    If anyone wants to help coordinate this PM me.

    W44
     
  19. huntpotter

    huntpotter SW WA Negotiator Bronze Supporter

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    Is Castle Rock the closest one you have near Vancouver?
     
  20. TAT2D

    TAT2D Portland Member

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    Hey, this sounds very cool. I'm already interested and just fwd'd the info to my kid to see if he'd be up for it. I saw on the RWVA site that there isn't any age restriction, beyond a parent's judgement that the kids are mature enough.

    We're both novices, so would need some prep/practice in handling rifles before attending. It sounded like the keys are getting the rifle sighted in, getting loose enough to fire prone, and rapid reloading.

    Questions:

    o I only have ready access to a .22 rifle. (Tube magazine, pump.) Would this be usable at the 500 yd distances? My brother was asking me just last night what distance a .22 rifle could reasonably/accurately shoot to, and I was guessing not nearly this far.

    o I saw in the checklist, bring your copy of "Fred’s Guide to becoming a Rifleman". Is this the book from "FredsM14Stocks.com".

    o I thought I read something about camping for the 2-day session. Is this a part of the training? If a session comes together at TCGC, I'd be within about 20 minutes of there and would much prefer to sleep in my own bed.

    Thanks for posting the info, this sounds really interesting.

    MrB