Anyone using ATF Fluid in place of gun oil?

[PDXSparky]

I use conola oil to me smells like fried chicken when I shoot! lol

If we're going with that reasoning, I think I'll try peanut oil.

 

[t.huynh]

Lol I see what you did there.

 

[Grunwald]

Although its nice to know I could sub another type of oil if I had to (perhaps some kind of survival situation) I just don't see the point for normal use. Some very smart people with degrees in chemistry and engineering have been developing and selling specific gun oils and cleaners for eons now... why not use them?

There are many examples across various industries where the same item is labeled differently and sold for a much higher profit.
About 15 years ago there was a "scandal" in the contact lens industry. It came to light that those high price extended wear contact lenses were exactly the same as the daily wear. Additionally two of the lens care solutions were the same, yet one came in a small bottle that cost more than another which came in a rather big bottle (same manufacturer). I don't remember what these solutions were anymore, as I don't wear contact lenses, but my girlfriend did and so I remember the story. You could even pickup the two bottles and read the ingredients (they were identical, including percentages)

 

[madcratebuilder]

Ed's Red is used as a bore cleaner, not a general gun oil.

If you had taken the time to read the link you would see otherwise.

Ed's Red Oil
See the ER recipe for an ER compatible oil. Just a 50/50 mix of ATF and K1 kerosene. Straight ATF works very well too.

There are literally dozens of variations of Ed's Red for specific purposes.

 

[Stomper]

I'm going to drink a bunch of vegetable oil, gather the following urine afterwards and then use that!

 

[locobob]

I'm going to drink a bunch of vegetable oil, gather the following urine afterwards and then use that!

Sweet! If you put it in a little dropper bottle with a fancy label I'll pay $10 for it.

 

[Jamie6.5]

Sweet! If you put it in a little dropper bottle with a fancy label I'll pay $10 for it.

LOLOL!

 

[locobob]

There are many examples across various industries where the same item is labeled differently and sold for a much higher profit.
About 15 years ago there was a "scandal" in the contact lens industry. It came to light that those high price extended wear contact lenses were exactly the same as the daily wear. Additionally two of the lens care solutions were the same, yet one came in a small bottle that cost more than another which came in a rather big bottle (same manufacturer). I don't remember what these solutions were anymore, as I don't wear contact lenses, but my girlfriend did and so I remember the story. You could even pickup the two bottles and read the ingredients (they were identical, including percentages)

Yeah, I hear ya. With marketing being what it is its hard to know for sure you are getting real value.

 

[Stomper]

Sweet! If you put it in a little dropper bottle with a fancy label I'll pay $10 for it.

The beauty of it is; it can pull double duty as an expedient salad dressing! (that makes it worth $15 per dropper bottle right there!)

 

[locobob]

The beauty of it is; it can pull double duty as an expedient salad dressing! (that makes it worth $15 per dropper bottle right there!)

Sold!..... if you use the word "organic" on the label I'll pay $20.

 

[Stomper]

Well since all this "green" and "blue" and "sustainable" language is merely all sales pitches... how about, "today's yellow is tomorrow's green"?


That'll be $25 please.

 

[22many]

+1 on these.

It might just be me, but it seems that you are taking this whole ATF vs. gun oil thing very personally.

I don't see it that way. Pp asked in a previous post the he didnt see benefits of ATF.

 

[ThemGunsThough]

Wow.... you guys are just silly now.

 

[Sling Blade]

This thread is proof that any "what kind of oil should I use?" thread in any forum is bound to go at least four pages or more. I am surprised we haven't gotten into the dino versus synthetic debate yet!

 

[Grunwald]

This thread is proof that any "what kind of oil should I use?" thread in any forum is bound to go at least four pages or more. I am surprised we haven't gotten into the dino versus synthetic debate yet!

There is no debate; synthetic of course.

 

[PDXSparky]

There is no debate; synthetic of course.

Yes, of course, but what weight? I'd pick 5-w20 because that's what's left over when I change the oil in my cars.

 

[chemist]

I use "Royal Purple" when I want to use an automotive oil for a gun lube - it's a full synthetic that's even better than Mobil 1. And like folks say, a single $7.50 quart of it lasts forever.

ATF is not made for a hot, dirty environment, nor is my gun in need of high levels of detergent. The coking temperature of a full-synthetic oil is the highest your money can buy, unless you go to a solid lube like moly disulfide. Temp extremes and blowby are the enemies, which engine oil is designed to withstand, unlike ATF.

If you clean your guns obsessively and like to run them wet, then go ahead and use WD-40 if you want to. If you run a neglected Glock bone dry like I do, then the durability of that tiny bit of persistent lubrication is a very big deal. In cooler areas like the slide rails I might go for white lithium grease, but in the hot zone I want the highest coking point I can get.

 

[2Wheels4Ever]

I have always run atf-f in my 2 stroke dirtbikes. I will give it a try next time a clean my guns and see how it does.

 

[redmud]

I use ATF in my nail guns it works great I have been doing it for years. A bottle of tool oil is to expensive and just gets to thick in the winter in Oregon. I rely on them to make a living so I would have stopped right away if I noticed any adverse effects.

 

[Sgt Nambu]

I used ATF in all my pneumatic tools as a mechanic and machinest. It's a common practice in the automotive repair industry. I won't use it on guns because it will stain anything it touches red.