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anyone see anything wrong here?

Discussion in 'General Firearm Discussion' started by hotSAUCE, May 15, 2013.

  1. hotSAUCE

    hotSAUCE All over Active Member

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    Just looked at this box

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  2. vertical ascent

    vertical ascent Vancouver Active Member

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    Looks like someone had been tossing the case or that case had fallen off a stack and dropped on the floor. I know it's a bummer because no retailer would take ammo returns and I can totally see why though. If you happen to be a reloader, nothing a bullet puller can't fix.
     
  3. Kevinkris

    Kevinkris Aloha Well-Known Member

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    and thats why i always open the box before i pay. only ever had one clerk tell me i couldnt but let me after i said i wouldnt buy without seeing it. vertical is probably right though.
     
  4. Mikej

    Mikej Portland Gold Supporter Gold Supporter 2015 Volunteer 2016 Volunteer

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    I'm assuming the bullets are there?

    One day at the range a guy had a white box of 100 Winchester .45acp that had THREE rounds that were seated WAY deep, and those were loose in the box.

    Mike
     
  5. NWGlockgal

    NWGlockgal Oregon Well-Known Member

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    I had a box of .40 I opened up last week where half of the box was just empty casings, nothing in them at all. I had the box for awhile, and I couldn't remember where I got it.
    Otherwise I would have gone back and complained.
     
  6. stmcelroy

    stmcelroy Madras, OR Well-Known Member

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    Are they actually messed up? or is the plastic under the rounds just broken?
     
  7. Mac_Fan

    Mac_Fan Beaverton Active Member

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    Let 'em rip. What's the worst that could happen? :)
     
  8. nwo

    nwo Southern Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Are the cartridges just pushed down into the plastic tray? If so, they are fine.
     
  9. vertical ascent

    vertical ascent Vancouver Active Member

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    Come to think of it, I think you have a bad batch, you should just go ahead and donate it to. Heh heh heh
     
  10. sneakboxer

    sneakboxer NW OR Active Member

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    For safety's sake do not fire the short ones (if in fact they are shorter and its not the packaging). The reduced case capacity will raise chamber pressure dramatically. If you have a caliper the minimum overall length should be about 1.125in. Short OAL caused by repeated chambering has been linked to / is a contributing factor the 40S&W kaboom problem. I'd check the whole box if it was me.
    Stay safe,
     
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  11. hotSAUCE

    hotSAUCE All over Active Member

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    very possible, but this came in a case of 1000 where 20 of the boxes have nothing wrong and the case itself has no damage

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    I emailed PMC:

    Dear Mr Kusmirek,

    I am sorry you experienced problems with PMC Ammunition. This is not normal with PMC ammunition. We take quality seriously and want to trace the cause of this problem. The lot number of the ammunition you had problems with is located on the inside of one of the box flaps..
    9A-xxxx
    Please e-mail me the lot #. Do not destroy the ammunition with the bullet pushed into the case. We will want this back and will reimburse the cost to send it back to us. Ammunition must have "ORM-D" on the outside of the shipping box. Ammunition needs to be shipped via ground freight. UPS or FedEx. Please send the ammunition to the address below. I have attached a complaint report in two different formats. When you fill this out please note that you would like the ammunition replaced or a refund. If you request a refund we will need a copy of your sales receipt.

    Please fill one of these out, attach any pictures, and send to

    PMC Ammunition
    Richard Henderson
    2257 N. Loop 336W
    Ste. 140-428
    Conroe, Texas 77304
    281-703-8146
    FAX 281-407-5654

    If you prefer, you can e-mail the report and pictures to:

    richard.henderson@pmcammo.com


    Thank you
    Richard Henderson
    PMC Ammunition
    richard.henderson@pmcammo.com


    They handled themselves very well! I'm def. a buyer of PMC for a long time (as long as they do as they say)
     
  12. turbovr6jetta

    turbovr6jetta Bellingham Wa Member

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    Ive gotten many of these randomly in many calibers from different manufacturers. Its good to see PMC is handling the problem so well. I never bother, Ive always just thrown them in the dirt and kept shooting. But now that ammo is worth its weight in silver I'll have to start sending them back
     
  13. Stomper

    Stomper Oceania Rising White Is The New Brown Silver Supporter

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    LOL... looks like little brass toes.
     
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  14. revjen45

    revjen45 Snohomish County Well-Known Member

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    My wife has taught me to open the carton and check for broken eggs. Now this article has taught me to open the box and check for FUBAR ammo.